Hotter, Badder, and Unpopularer Takes

[RFayette 🇻🇦]

Nickelback is a good band.

[RFayette 🇻🇦]

-Lifehouse and Sum 41 are great bands.  More broadly, the early 2000's was the best time for music overall.

-Many people who are pro-choice know deep down abortion is wrong but resist it as they are uncomfortable with with the implications of fetal personhood as it relates to our national moral fabric and inherent individual depravity.

[RFayette 🇻🇦]

I genuinely, honestly cannot grasp--emotionally, empathetically grasp--how a decent human being can possibly be right-wing on material issues, although I believe strongly enough in fair play and honest discussion and have a clear enough intellectual understanding of most arguments for right-wing positions that I'm able to act as if I can grasp it.

I feel similarly about pro-choicers - I can intellectually grasp the arguments but it is difficult for me to see how a decent, intellectually honest person who has thought through the issue can defend it, though such clearly is the case and there are indeed well-meaning pro-choice people. I attribute it to ignorance and emotivism largely, but to me it is something that so plainly cries for justice it is easy to get polemical about.  

[RFayette 🇻🇦]

I genuinely, honestly cannot grasp--emotionally, empathetically grasp--how a decent human being can possibly be right-wing on material issues, although I believe strongly enough in fair play and honest discussion and have a clear enough intellectual understanding of most arguments for right-wing positions that I'm able to act as if I can grasp it.

I feel similarly about pro-choicers - I can intellectually grasp the arguments but it is difficult for me to see how a decent, intellectually honest person who has thought through the issue can defend it, though such clearly is the case and there are indeed well-meaning pro-choice people. I attribute it to ignorance and emotivism largely, but to me it is something that so plainly cries for justice it is easy to get polemical about.  

Ignorance and emotivism on pro-choicers' part (hence their ability to hold the position) or on your part (hence your inability to grasp their holding it)? I ask because I definitely feel that it's a failure of imagination and a failure of compassion on my part to have the problem I'm describing (since I'm perfectly aware of the descriptive fact that people whom I like very much--such as you and Cathcon!--can and often do have pointedly right-wing politics), and I'm not humblebragging or virtue signaling by bringing it up.

i was thinking about it primarily about how most people arguing the pro-choice case seem to have absolutely dreadful arguments so I was attributing that to emotivism and ignorance (as opposed to malice), but it can also apply to me in that I certainly can be overly harsh and presume that everyone on the opposite side is either callous or hasn’t thought the issue through.  I acknowledge there are informed pro-choicers who have good reasons (though ultimately false) for believing why they do, but it is easy for me to have a visceral reaction that is very harsh.