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bobloblaw
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« on: September 20, 2015, 10:22:51 AM »
« edited: September 20, 2015, 10:26:15 AM by bobloblaw »

Before the 1992 Republican Convention in Houston the GOP had won 5 of the previous 6 Presidential elections.  At the convention Pat Buchanan made his now famous speech basically declaring Holy war and the rest of the Religious right seemed to do all they could to scare moderate Americans away from the party.

Since then the Democrats have won the popular vote in 5 of 6 elections.  These are the states the Dems. have won 6 out of 6, totaling 242 Electoral votes. Just 28 short of 270.



Women, once a swing vote, now vote mostly Democratic. Young people, upset that the GOP hates their gay friends, vote overwhelmingly Democratic. And Religious minorities, and those of no religion, are also very unlikely to vote for the GOP.

Even people who only 'Occasionally' go to Church backed Obama in 2012 55-43.

So is this my secular queer bias? Or is there something here?

yes, your bias is queer.

1988 unemployment 5.4%. 1992 unemployment 7.7%. That is why the GOP lost in 1992. Not the convention.

And since that time, the unemployment rate has favored the Dems in 1996, 2008, 2012 and probably 2016. Gore the idiot blew it with a 3.8% unemployment rate. he should have won by 5 at least.

The "blue wall" is a myth. In Nov 2016, unemployment could be as low as 4%. We'll see how well Clinton does in 2020 with unemployment still above 6-7% after the 2018 recession.
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bobloblaw
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2015, 04:07:31 PM »

Before the 1992 Republican Convention in Houston the GOP had won 5 of the previous 6 Presidential elections.  At the convention Pat Buchanan made his now famous speech basically declaring Holy war and the rest of the Religious right seemed to do all they could to scare moderate Americans away from the party.

Since then the Democrats have won the popular vote in 5 of 6 elections.  These are the states the Dems. have won 6 out of 6, totaling 242 Electoral votes. Just 28 short of 270.



Women, once a swing vote, now vote mostly Democratic. Young people, upset that the GOP hates their gay friends, vote overwhelmingly Democratic. And Religious minorities, and those of no religion, are also very unlikely to vote for the GOP.

Even people who only 'Occasionally' go to Church backed Obama in 2012 55-43.

So is this my secular queer bias? Or is there something here?

yes, your bias is queer.

1988 unemployment 5.4%. 1992 unemployment 7.7%. That is why the GOP lost in 1992. Not the convention.

And since that time, the unemployment rate has favored the Dems in 1996, 2008, 2012 and probably 2016. Gore the idiot blew it with a 3.8% unemployment rate. he should have won by 5 at least.

The "blue wall" is a myth. In Nov 2016, unemployment could be as low as 4%. We'll see how well Clinton does in 2020 with unemployment still above 6-7% after the 2018 recession.
Well Reagan in a blowout in 1984 with 8% unemployment, and Obama won re-election in 2012 with 7% unemployment. True the unemployment rate favored the Dems in 1996. What was the un-employment rate in 2008? 6% on election day?




In 1996, it was 5.4% or so.

In 1984, unemployment was 3.5% lower than in 1982. In 2012, unemployment was about 2.5% lower than in 2010.
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bobloblaw
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2015, 11:09:36 PM »

This is the truth: I was a registered Republican from 1984 to 1992, and considered myself a "Rockefeller Republican." I aligned myself with the eastern industrialist/internationalist wing of the GOP in the Willkie/Dewey/Stassen/Eisenhower/Rockefeller mold.

I lukewarmly supported Bush Sr. in  the CA primary. I was disgusted by much of the tenor and dialogue in the GOP convention that year. I re-registered as an Independent (aka "Decline to State" in CA) and haven't voted for a Republican for president since.

So I, at least, am still haunted by the 1992 convention.

Amen. I undoubtedly would've been among that group

Other than Ike, youve aligned yourself with LOSERS
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bobloblaw
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2015, 10:26:23 PM »

This is the truth: I was a registered Republican from 1984 to 1992, and considered myself a "Rockefeller Republican." I aligned myself with the eastern industrialist/internationalist wing of the GOP in the Willkie/Dewey/Stassen/Eisenhower/Rockefeller mold.

I lukewarmly supported Bush Sr. in  the CA primary. I was disgusted by much of the tenor and dialogue in the GOP convention that year. I re-registered as an Independent (aka "Decline to State" in CA) and haven't voted for a Republican for president since.

So I, at least, am still haunted by the 1992 convention.

Amen. I undoubtedly would've been among that group

Other than Ike, youve aligned yourself with LOSERS

Reagan was a moderate conservative

He was a conservative and the most conservative since Goldwater in 64
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bobloblaw
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2015, 11:00:46 PM »

This is the truth: I was a registered Republican from 1984 to 1992, and considered myself a "Rockefeller Republican." I aligned myself with the eastern industrialist/internationalist wing of the GOP in the Willkie/Dewey/Stassen/Eisenhower/Rockefeller mold.

I lukewarmly supported Bush Sr. in  the CA primary. I was disgusted by much of the tenor and dialogue in the GOP convention that year. I re-registered as an Independent (aka "Decline to State" in CA) and haven't voted for a Republican for president since.

So I, at least, am still haunted by the 1992 convention.

Amen. I undoubtedly would've been among that group

Other than Ike, youve aligned yourself with LOSERS

Reagan was a moderate conservative

He was a conservative and the most conservative since Goldwater in 64

George W Bush was certainly more conservative


"Compassionate Conservatism" arent words that ever crossed Reagan's lips.

Reagan's 81 tax changes were revolutionary. Bush's 2001 and 2003 tax cuts were tiny percent rate reductions.
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