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  Should the Electoral College be abolished? (search mode)
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Question: Should it?
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Yes, elect POTUS by National Popular Vote
 
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No, keep it
 
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Roronoa D. Law
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« on: July 03, 2023, 11:37:26 AM »
« edited: July 04, 2023, 01:14:57 PM by Roronoa D. Law »

Yes, it's questionable how long we can keep this system when we keep having multiple occasions where the electoral college elects someone without a majority of the country. This is only a divisive issue because one political party feels they cant win if the election is decided by a npv.

All the cries of urban areas taking all the oxygen is meaningless. Especially when the last election was decided by places in and around Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Phoenix. If anything it leaves a lot people out of the process because they happen to not live in 6 states that can decide the election.

Open it up to all states, territories, and allow the President to be elected by the vote of the people.
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Roronoa D. Law
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2023, 08:26:17 PM »
« Edited: July 04, 2023, 08:44:47 PM by Roronoa D. Law »

Of course not.

As an aside, there's a decent change the national "popular" vote is to the right of tipping point in 2028. Will be interesting to see, if TalkElections is still around then, if blue and red avys have changed their minds.

In the weird scenario the Democrats win the EC while losing the npv im sure most Democrats would still want to abolish the electoral college.
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Roronoa D. Law
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2023, 09:26:07 PM »

Change for the sake of change is not change worth pursuing. It is incumbent on the side that supports a position different from the status quo to convince those who don’t mind it.

This isnt change for the sake of change. Its about evening the playing field for people who feel left out. Whether that is a Republican in NYC or a Democrat in Memphis. The probelm with the EC now is that is not what a majority of the electoral want but what someone in WI or PA want.

There is a lot of speculation about whether one party or the other would win the so-called “popular” vote. Of the top ten states by population, 7/10 are competed in by both parties every presidential election, while the other three are only touched by republicans in midterms/downballot.

The fact that we have gotten to the point that one political party is not confident enough winning a majority of the electorate is revealing in itself. If the Republican only path to presidency is through the rural tilt of EC is a huge disservice to the nation and the party itself.

Even then just because the npv currently favor the Democrats dont mean the Republicans are unable to win the Presidency. It just means the party needs to adjust something a lot Republicans and blue avatars been saying a lot. 

You know who would love a national “popular” vote election? TV networks and digital advertising platforms. If every vote in every state is counted, you would see level of spend increase by an order of magnitude.

Well of course it would because the scope of the electorate would have gotten bigger. Which is what we should want. Democrats and Republican will be visiting all over the country wherever they can pick up votes. That the product of actually having a national election.

As far as money in politics? Where was this uproar when it matter with Citizens United and having SuperPACs reveal donors?
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