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« on: January 17, 2024, 12:50:04 PM »

Israeli aid has been blocked too so it’s just not Ukraine aid . The fact is the Senate Deal Lankford wanted to cut is absolutely terrible .

That deal did not crack down on illegal immigration like reports said Biden was willing to so yes we should not approve this national security bill until we actually crack down in illegal immigration .
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2024, 12:57:17 PM »

Hmm, so Biden is willing to move to the right on border issues and offered huge concessions, but the Republicans would rather support their friend Putin than help Biden secure the border.

Senate democrats aren’t willing to move right wards though. That deal they struck does not crack down on illegal immigration at all .
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2024, 08:28:57 PM »

Paying workers sub par wages and often blackmailing them with deportation if they protest is evil, not sure why you have quotation marks.

I'm not sure why you think you have the moral high ground here, since you want to deport them.

Deporting them immediately is far more ethical than employing them for sh*t wages while they live as second class citizens.

Obviously the ideal solution is for them to be given citizenship so they can work for the same wages as anyone else, but I completely disagree. Deporting them is the worst thing we could do.

People don’t have a right to move to another country
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2024, 09:44:30 PM »

Paying workers sub par wages and often blackmailing them with deportation if they protest is evil, not sure why you have quotation marks.

I'm not sure why you think you have the moral high ground here, since you want to deport them.

Deporting them immediately is far more ethical than employing them for sh*t wages while they live as second class citizens.

Obviously the ideal solution is for them to be given citizenship so they can work for the same wages as anyone else, but I completely disagree. Deporting them is the worst thing we could do.

People don’t have a right to move to another country
Says someone who wouldn’t be here without immigration

I wasn’t an illegal immigrant and legal immigration numbers weren’t at Canadian levels like many liberals like Ferguson seem to want .

I am perfectly fine with legal immigration numbers being around where they are today (I’d just switch the criteria to a point based system) so these talking points are getting ridiculous.
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