January 6th legal proceedings and investigations megathread

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Thought I'd share this hear too from ABC:

Fitch informed Biden administration officials that the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection was a factor in its decision to downgrade because it indicated an unstable government, according to a person familiar with the discussions between the administration and the rating agency. Fitch produced a report last year that showed government stability declined from 2018 to 2021, but increased since Biden assumed the presidency, said the person, who was granted anonymity to disclose private conversations.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/fitch-downgrades-us-credit-rating-citing-mounting-debt-101919526

Ironic he's getting indicted today seeing as how he damaged America's credit rating from this stunt.

Fitch Ratings has downgraded the United States government’s credit rating, citing rising debt at the federal, state, and local levels and a “steady deterioration in standards of governance” over the past two decades

America deserves this for what it did to Al Gore.

Gore ran a terrible campaign lost due to that.

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Chuck Todd pointed out earlier that while republicans are complaining about this , we wouldn’t need this case if Republicans just impeached him

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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1688995093267480576

* Stocks up on popcorn *

Trump could have been relaxing at Mar-A-Lago if he just conceded in 2020 and then grifted of the fact he was a former president for the rest of his life

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Nice! Since Cannon rejected that time slot for MAL it's left nicely open for this.

If they did that schedule we might have a verdict before Super Tuesday. Although my guess if the judge will give it a few more months given quantity of discovery.

TRUMP is going to get convicted before the General Election at least in one case, maybe more. That's the big thing here.

Good Luck to the Republican Party to cope with this!

To be honest, I'm not sure whether this will actually have an impact on the electorate in the November election. Anyone who's still with Trump as of today won't abandon him because of that as they just see this a a political conspiracy to silence him.

He might lose some institutional support or from Republican officeholders/donor circles, but it won't matter all that much. He won in 2016 without their support as well.

If Trump is convicted he won’t be able to give a Convention Speech , attend any of the debates or actively campaign at all . So the charisma factor wouldn’t benefit him here

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Nice! Since Cannon rejected that time slot for MAL it's left nicely open for this.

If they did that schedule we might have a verdict before Super Tuesday. Although my guess if the judge will give it a few more months given quantity of discovery.

TRUMP is going to get convicted before the General Election at least in one case, maybe more. That's the big thing here.

Good Luck to the Republican Party to cope with this!

To be honest, I'm not sure whether this will actually have an impact on the electorate in the November election. Anyone who's still with Trump as of today won't abandon him because of that as they just see this a a political conspiracy to silence him.

He might lose some institutional support or from Republican officeholders/donor circles, but it won't matter all that much. He won in 2016 without their support as well.

If Trump is convicted he won’t be able to give a Convention Speech , attend any of the debates or actively campaign at all . So the charisma factor wouldn’t benefit him here

What's going to stop him? No law or the constitution prevent it. Technically he could still be elected from jail. Republicans won't stand up after a criminal conviction beyond the usual suspects like Romney or Hogan, who have no say in the party these days.

Sure but it is much much harder to run if you are unable to even campaign as keep in mind if Trump is convicted not only would he not be able to do the things I mention but he wouldn’t even able to coordinate a campaign. The reason is he’d have no internet access and no communication access other than limited visitation time so I don’t see a way where he can be able to run any sort of campaign. That would certainly hurt him among normie voters who really don’t follow politics at all.

Keep in mind the reason he came so close in 2020 is that he did have the power of incumbency , the US economy was roaring back quickly by the time of the election and democrats were the party associated with riots while now it’s the GOP who is associated with rioting .

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Nice! Since Cannon rejected that time slot for MAL it's left nicely open for this.

If they did that schedule we might have a verdict before Super Tuesday. Although my guess if the judge will give it a few more months given quantity of discovery.

TRUMP is going to get convicted before the General Election at least in one case, maybe more. That's the big thing here.

Good Luck to the Republican Party to cope with this!

To be honest, I'm not sure whether this will actually have an impact on the electorate in the November election. Anyone who's still with Trump as of today won't abandon him because of that as they just see this a a political conspiracy to silence him.

He might lose some institutional support or from Republican officeholders/donor circles, but it won't matter all that much. He won in 2016 without their support as well.

If Trump is convicted he won’t be able to give a Convention Speech , attend any of the debates or actively campaign at all . So the charisma factor wouldn’t benefit him here

Sure he will. Even if convicted early next year he'll remain out on bond pending appeal for sure which won't be decided until probably after the election.

Can't the Appeals Court and Supreme Court just refuse to take up his appeal.

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Nice! Since Cannon rejected that time slot for MAL it's left nicely open for this.

If they did that schedule we might have a verdict before Super Tuesday. Although my guess if the judge will give it a few more months given quantity of discovery.

TRUMP is going to get convicted before the General Election at least in one case, maybe more. That's the big thing here.

Good Luck to the Republican Party to cope with this!

To be honest, I'm not sure whether this will actually have an impact on the electorate in the November election. Anyone who's still with Trump as of today won't abandon him because of that as they just see this a a political conspiracy to silence him.

He might lose some institutional support or from Republican officeholders/donor circles, but it won't matter all that much. He won in 2016 without their support as well.

If Trump is convicted he won’t be able to give a Convention Speech , attend any of the debates or actively campaign at all . So the charisma factor wouldn’t benefit him here

Sure he will. Even if convicted early next year he'll remain out on bond pending appeal for sure which won't be decided until probably after the election.

Can't the Appeals Court and Supreme Court just refuse to take up his appeal.

The US Supreme Court yes, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals no. He has a full right to appeal to the circuit. That appeal as I noted will take probably at least a year after sentencing give or take a month. And then there will be the inevitable request for en banc review assuming the conviction is upheld, and then a petition for review by The Supremes. The entire appeals process won't be over until notably after Inauguration Day

Can't the Sentencing Judge and the Appeals Court judge remand him into custody while his appeal his pending. At the very least put him in House Arrest with no internet access.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Nice! Since Cannon rejected that time slot for MAL it's left nicely open for this.

If they did that schedule we might have a verdict before Super Tuesday. Although my guess if the judge will give it a few more months given quantity of discovery.

TRUMP is going to get convicted before the General Election at least in one case, maybe more. That's the big thing here.

Good Luck to the Republican Party to cope with this!

To be honest, I'm not sure whether this will actually have an impact on the electorate in the November election. Anyone who's still with Trump as of today won't abandon him because of that as they just see this a a political conspiracy to silence him.

He might lose some institutional support or from Republican officeholders/donor circles, but it won't matter all that much. He won in 2016 without their support as well.

If Trump is convicted he won’t be able to give a Convention Speech , attend any of the debates or actively campaign at all . So the charisma factor wouldn’t benefit him here

Sure he will. Even if convicted early next year he'll remain out on bond pending appeal for sure which won't be decided until probably after the election.

Can't the Appeals Court and Supreme Court just refuse to take up his appeal.

The US Supreme Court yes, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals no. He has a full right to appeal to the circuit. That appeal as I noted will take probably at least a year after sentencing give or take a month. And then there will be the inevitable request for en banc review assuming the conviction is upheld, and then a petition for review by The Supremes. The entire appeals process won't be over until notably after Inauguration Day

Can't the Sentencing Judge and the Appeals Court judge remand him into custody while his appeal his pending. At the very least put him in House Arrest with no internet access.

Theoretically yes, but almost surely not going to happen.

Why, it makes no sense for him to be out on bail after a conviction

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MSNBC has a live feed from the courtroom.

Can you post the link

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The way I see it, if you are a conservative, avoid blue cities. You will not be treated honestly and fairly by the law in a blue run city and state. It's similar to the old south. Before the civil war, northerners didn't want to travel to Democrat southern states, knowing they would be treated unfairly by law officials in the south. The old south was also obsessed with a persons race and skin color just like today's blue run cities. History can repeat itsself.

Big blue cities are still far better for people of all ideologies compared to small towns.

The Suburbs are better than either

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Aw! I wanted Meadows to go to prison.

He still may in Georgia

He probably will make a deal in Georgia too . If he made won in DC , why wouldn’t he take a plea deal in GA as well

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Seems bad. Appeals court is going lightning speed but Trump can appeal en banc and then to SCOTUS with like 30 and 45 delays before "deciding" to do so, so the trial is most likely getting delayed now.

SCOTUS can easily decide to reject Cert in an appeal like they have done to many of Trump's petitions. Also being delayed doenst mean delayed past election.

A Trial in like August would be worse for Trump than a trial in March