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Question: Will you #votebluenomatterwho?
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« on: February 09, 2020, 12:24:41 AM »

Obviously not since I will not vote for Jeff Merkley in the senate race. If Bernie is the nominee, I am writing-in John Kasich or Mitt Romney for President so even for the Presidential Race , my answer is no.
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2020, 10:48:38 AM »

Obviously not since I will not vote for Jeff Merkley in the senate race. If Bernie is the nominee, I am writing-in John Kasich or Mitt Romney for President so even for the Presidential Race , my answer is no.

Would you vote for Mayor Pete since there is at least some chance he might be the nominee?

At this point I’m still unsure about Mayor Pete , but I would definitely consider voting for him and I probably would .


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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2020, 08:36:36 PM »

Obviously not since I will not vote for Jeff Merkley in the senate race. If Bernie is the nominee, I am writing-in John Kasich or Mitt Romney for President so even for the Presidential Race , my answer is no.

What is it with #NeverTrumpers and their unwillingness to just vote third party like the rest of us disaffecteds?

Cause third-party candidates are pretty much a joke and usually worse than either of the major parties. Just look at how much of a joke the Libertarians and the Green Party is , and those are the main third parties in this nation.

The last really good third party candidate was Ross Perot


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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2020, 08:38:09 PM »



Dan Lipinski or Arthur Jones
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2020, 08:50:11 PM »

Obviously not since I will not vote for Jeff Merkley in the senate race. If Bernie is the nominee, I am writing-in John Kasich or Mitt Romney for President so even for the Presidential Race , my answer is no.

What is it with #NeverTrumpers and their unwillingness to just vote third party like the rest of us disaffecteds?

Cause third-party candidates are pretty much a joke and usually worse than either of the major parties. Just look at how much of a joke the Libertarians and the Green Party is , and those are the main third parties in this nation.

The last really good third party candidate was Ross Perot


Ah, yes, unlike voting for someone who's not even running.


Im talking about their views, the Libertarian Party seriously was debating whether goverment should require licenses to drive, should cocaine be sold to 5-year-olds etc.


At Least Mitt Romney and John Kasich are sane unlike the Libertarian and Green parties and would actually make good presidents. Write-In is basically the same thing as abstaining but allowing you to hypothetically vote for your dream candidate and I would rather do that then vote for Trump, Bernie, the Libertarians or Greens
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2020, 10:37:30 PM »


Lipinski, but only because he's pro-life. If he were pro-choice, like almost all other elected dems, I would have to abstain.


What if it was a swing district , and what if it was say a pro choice Dem vs a literal member of ISIS .

Would you still abstain , even if you would be risking that ISIS member winning . Like there has to be a line drawn at some point in which every US politician no matter the party is better than the alternative.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2020, 04:33:27 PM »

If you're NeverTrump, you'll for the Democrat nominee no matter what.  Anything else is a vote for Trump by proxy.


Wrong, Never Trumper's voting Independent hurts Trump because that divides the Republican vote.


I will not vote for Bernie Sanders, I utterly despise him in every way and shape possible.  The fact that I am not voting for Trump agaisnt Bernie shows how much I dislike Trump too because I am willing to risk Bernie getting elected and vote third party
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2020, 04:38:02 PM »

If you're NeverTrump, you'll for the Democrat nominee no matter what.  Anything else is a vote for Trump by proxy.


Wrong, Never Trumper's voting Independent hurts Trump because that divides the Republican vote

If you were never voting Trump in the first place, its not dividing anything.  You can't divide something he never had.  If you're not voting for his closest rival you're obviously not that concerned about him winning again.


Lol no , Trump needs the votes he can from Never Trumpers(or nonvoters) to make up for the fact that turnout will be higher than 2016. I despise Bernie utterly and will not vote for him.




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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2020, 04:43:54 PM »

If you're NeverTrump, you'll for the Democrat nominee no matter what.  Anything else is a vote for Trump by proxy.


Wrong, Never Trumper's voting Independent hurts Trump because that divides the Republican vote

If you were never voting Trump in the first place, its not dividing anything.  You can't divide something he never had.  If you're not voting for his closest rival you're obviously not that concerned about him winning again.


Lol no , Trump needs the votes he can from Never Trumpers(or nonvoters) to make up for the fact that turnout will be higher than 2016. I despise Bernie utterly and will not vote for him.


So you're fine with Trump being relected if it comes to him or Bernie.  You won't do anything to actively prevent it.  Thats NOT Never Trump.


Yes that is Never Trump means not voting for him and besides Trump cannot afford to lose Republican voters so yes I am hurting Trump by not voting for Bernie.


I truly despise Bernie and I could not in good conscience vote for him as he is horrible in every way possible. He is basically Jermey Corbyn but just hides it better than Corbyn does.
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2020, 04:50:41 PM »

If you're NeverTrump, you'll for the Democrat nominee no matter what.  Anything else is a vote for Trump by proxy.


Wrong, Never Trumper's voting Independent hurts Trump because that divides the Republican vote

If you were never voting Trump in the first place, its not dividing anything.  You can't divide something he never had.  If you're not voting for his closest rival you're obviously not that concerned about him winning again.


Lol no , Trump needs the votes he can from Never Trumpers(or nonvoters) to make up for the fact that turnout will be higher than 2016. I despise Bernie utterly and will not vote for him.


So you're fine with Trump being relected if it comes to him or Bernie.  You won't do anything to actively prevent it.  Thats NOT Never Trump.


Yes that is Never Trump means not voting for him and besides Trump cannot afford to lose Republican voters so yes I am hurting Trump by not voting for Bernie.


I truly despise Bernie and I could not in good conscience vote for him as he is horrible in every way possible. He is basically Jermey Corbyn but just hides it better than Corbyn does.

That makes no sense..

Its a cop out.  You throwing your vote away helps Trump.  Is there a viable third party candidate with a shot at winning?  No.  You will be responsible for his reelection.

Then dont nominate a person who is pro Fidel Castro, Pro USSR, pro Hugo Chavez ,and is Anti Hindu(just like Corbyn is Anti-Semitic and he is anti-Hindu in the same way Corbyn is Anti-Semtic)





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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2020, 05:29:48 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2020, 05:34:04 PM by Old School Republican »

If you're NeverTrump, you'll for the Democrat nominee no matter what.  Anything else is a vote for Trump by proxy.


Wrong, Never Trumper's voting Independent hurts Trump because that divides the Republican vote

If you were never voting Trump in the first place, its not dividing anything.  You can't divide something he never had.  If you're not voting for his closest rival you're obviously not that concerned about him winning again.


Lol no , Trump needs the votes he can from Never Trumpers(or nonvoters) to make up for the fact that turnout will be higher than 2016. I despise Bernie utterly and will not vote for him.


So you're fine with Trump being relected if it comes to him or Bernie.  You won't do anything to actively prevent it.  Thats NOT Never Trump.


Yes that is Never Trump means not voting for him and besides Trump cannot afford to lose Republican voters so yes I am hurting Trump by not voting for Bernie.


I truly despise Bernie and I could not in good conscience vote for him as he is horrible in every way possible. He is basically Jermey Corbyn but just hides it better than Corbyn does.

That makes no sense..

Its a cop out.  You throwing your vote away helps Trump.  Is there a viable third party candidate with a shot at winning?  No.  You will be responsible for his reelection.

Then dont nominate a person who is pro Fidel Castro, Pro USSR, pro Hugo Chavez ,and is Anti Hindu(just like Corbyn is Anti-Semitic and he is anti-Hindu in the same way Corbyn is Anti-Semtic)



Dead. Dissolved. Dead. Laughable.


Shows hes pro Commie no matter what . The fact that he sided with the USSR, Sandinistas , Castro's Cuba in the cold war shows he isnt a patriot . I mean those actions are not small and are super Anti-American and the fact he hasnt apolgized for any of this is disgraceful in every way possible


Also on being Anti Hindu: He repeatedly has repeated Pakstani Propoganda just like Corbyn did the same with Anti Israeli propaganda, he has pro Sharia adivsors, and has been a strong opponent of high skilled immigration his entire career while he supports amnesty for the Illegals
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2020, 11:27:15 AM »

I will vote for the Democratic nominee. Blue no matter who.

I'm not a fan of Bernie's far left foreign policy tendencies, but the idea that he is "anti-Hindu" is so unbelievably ridiculous. I know this isn't the place for a debate over this, but to spin critique of Modi's government in that way is irresponsible.

The Hindu ethno-nationalist wave in India at the moment is inseparable from the current wave of white nationalism in America and Europe. If you're #NeverTrump, you must be #NeverModi.


I dislike Trump cause of his behavior , I don’t not dislike him cause of his policies . Also Modi isn’t an ethno-nationalist to say so is ridiculous (If you pm me I can discuss more about this because this isn’t the place for that ) and while Trump is personally despicable and a bigoted his policies really aren’t (even on immigration they basically are just reversing Obama era policies).


Also Bernie has taken then the Pakistani side on the Kashmir issue almost 100% , and that has nothing to do with the new immigration bill India passed , that is Bernie copying Corbyn except instead of Israel-Palestine it’s India-Pakistan (but I am sure the both of them agree with each other as well on Israel and India).


Lastly Bernie has been one of the biggest opponents of high skilled immigration his entire career
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2020, 02:33:36 PM »

Also on being Anti Hindu: He repeatedly has repeated Pakstani Propoganda just like Corbyn did the same with Anti Israeli propaganda, he has pro Sharia adivsors, and has been a strong opponent of high skilled immigration his entire career while he supports amnesty for the Illegals
You're anti-Muslim and anti-Chinese.

Um what this is clearly false in every way possible.

I have a question do you think almost everyone who isn’t a strong opponent of US foreign policy is bigoted in that way because if that is true then you are clearly false.








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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2020, 09:17:47 PM »

Also Bernie has taken then the Pakistani side on the Kashmir issue almost 100% , and that has nothing to do with the new immigration bill India passed , that is Bernie copying Corbyn except instead of Israel-Palestine it’s India-Pakistan (but I am sure the both of them agree with each other as well on Israel and India).
This is hilarious. You think a man who once lived on a kibbutz views Israel in the same way that Jeremy Corbyn does?

He always prefaces any criticism of Israel with muh right to exist.

Yes, he has floated the possibility of axing military aid. But so have Warren and Buttigieg. But I doubt any of them would follow through - they don't want to die.


Yes cause of how anti American Socialist Interest groups are and Bernie this time unlike last time has fully embraced every single one of those interest groups and they generally are anti Israel cause to them , Israel is a strong ally of the US and for that reason they must be opposed .


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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2020, 06:44:38 PM »

ThatConservativeGuy is no longer a fit for the modern Republican Cult.  Hopefully he will now come to the party of responsible government, with Bill Kristol and I.  I'm proud of him.


Bill Kristol lmao , I would take 90% of the current GOP over him any day possible and the fact is if he was in congress right now he would basically be where Tom Cotton is .


If you want to use a good never Trumper use John Kasich
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2020, 12:10:28 AM »

Yes. I considered simply leaving the top spot blank in November, depending on the Democratic nominee. However, since Georgia is likely in play, and this president is a clear and present danger to the long-term health of our entire system of government, yes, I will vote for whomever the Democrats nominate.

You’re a democrat, and your true colors are coming out. If you’re willing to assist a communist takeover of the executive branch — if your willing to abet the utter and irreversible destruction of our constitutional republic, simply  because our moderate, centrist Republican President is too “radical” or “indecent” for you peculiar tastes — get out, forever. You can’t do it fast enough! Get out of our party and join arms with your own kind.
Folks like yourself do not belong with us. We can’t allow our ranks to be filled with feckless democrats-in-all-but-name who are utterly incapable and unwilling of fighting for what’s right and making rational decisions.

So betraying the GOP is worse than betraying the country in your mind. You have come out many times and said you don’t think committing treason against the US is a bad thing and yet you have the nerve to call other people traitors .You hate this nation of ours and you have the freakin gall to post the things you do .


I’m going to end this by this : the fact that you have said that you couldn’t vote for a average dem over a neo Nazi and didn’t answer my question if you would vote for that dem over a literal ISIS member , then that is literally all that needs to be said .



I have absolutely no respect for you whatsoever because the fact is you are a terrible person
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2020, 12:44:28 AM »



The fact that you couldnt answer me if you would vote for an average Dem over a literal ISIS member and have said out loud you wouldnt do it against a literal neo-nazi says all there needs to be said about you .




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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2020, 01:04:02 AM »



The fact that you couldnt answer me if you would vote for an average Dem over a literal ISIS member and have said out loud you wouldnt do it against a literal neo-nazi says all there needs to be said about you .

For your tired old neo-nazi question that I've already answered multiple times -- I would vote for the democrat so long as he or she were pro-life, but would find it nearly unconscionable to vote for either should the democrat be pro-choice, so I'd likely abstain. However I would've voted for Dan Lipinski over Arthur Jones, for example, as Lipinski is largely pro-life.

As for the ISIS question -- when did you ask this again? I don't remember seeing it. Anyway, I would either vote for the democrat if he or she was acceptable enough, otherwise I'd abstain. The Democratic Party is less of an immediate physical threat to Americans (outside of the womb, that is) than ISIS is

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I have absolutely no respect for you whatsoever because the fact is you are a terrible person.

Thanks! In no way does this statement remind me of a certain orange president you despise with unhealthily extreme ardor! Not at all!


How could you think about abstaining against an ISIS member , just come on. There has to be a line where you would vote for even the Squad over a person so despicable like an ISIS member is .

Unhealthily despise Trump lol , I told many times I want to vote for him and support him but the fact is his behavior and disregard for the rule of law is why I just cannot vote or support him
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