New Hampshire Primary Thread (polls close at 6-7 CT)

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Go Warren , divide the leftist vote so Bernie loses

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Only 11% 18-29 in the first wave of polling.

https://twitter.com/actoraaronbooth/status/1227356748454952961?s=21

BS. BS. BS.  The initial exit polls in Iowa were at 14 or 16%, and then it went all the way up to 24% at the end of the night.  

Caucuses are much harder to poll than Primaries

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If Biden does flame out, it's going to remind me a lot of another candidate who seemed the obvious front-runner beforehand, but never took off: Rudy Giuliani in 2008.

(And I supported both of them.  Was it something I said?)

SC will be his FL then

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I hope Steyer fails in the next debate

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With these suburban results, I'm beginning to think that even VA might be a swing state this fall with Bernie at the top of the ticket.

Just like how in 2008 Hillary Clinton won PA, MI, and OH in the primary, and then everyone said "oh, Obama will lose in the swingy rust belt."

McCain was winning in OH before the economic crash and was close in PA i believe. 

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With these suburban results, I'm beginning to think that even VA might be a swing state this fall with Bernie at the top of the ticket.

Just like how in 2008 Hillary Clinton won PA, MI, and OH in the primary, and then everyone said "oh, Obama will lose in the swingy rust belt."

McCain was winning in OH before the economic crash and was close in PA i believe. 

You mean the economic crash that occurred due to Republican policies?

Lol so Glass-Stegall was repealed under a Republican President or was the Community Reinvestment Act Passed under a Republican President. Yes much of Bush's policies contributed such as keeping Greenspan as FED Chair but it was bipartisan blame

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With these suburban results, I'm beginning to think that even VA might be a swing state this fall with Bernie at the top of the ticket.

Just like how in 2008 Hillary Clinton won PA, MI, and OH in the primary, and then everyone said "oh, Obama will lose in the swingy rust belt."

McCain was winning in OH before the economic crash and was close in PA i believe. 

You mean the economic crash that occurred due to Republican policies?

Lol so Glass-Stegall was repealed under a Republican President or was the Community Reinvestment Act Passed under a Republican President. Yes much of Bush's policies contributed such as keeping Greenspan as FED Chair but it was bipartisan blame

Out of curiosity, OSR, would you support reinstating some version of Glass-Steagall?

Yes

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With these suburban results, I'm beginning to think that even VA might be a swing state this fall with Bernie at the top of the ticket.

Just like how in 2008 Hillary Clinton won PA, MI, and OH in the primary, and then everyone said "oh, Obama will lose in the swingy rust belt."

McCain was winning in OH before the economic crash and was close in PA i believe. 

You mean the economic crash that occurred due to Republican policies?

Lol so Glass-Stegall was repealed under a Republican President or was the Community Reinvestment Act Passed under a Republican President. Yes much of Bush's policies contributed such as keeping Greenspan as FED Chair but it was bipartisan blame

But... But George Bush and John McCain slashed high-end income taxes! That always always works to stimulate the economy! Reagan said so! LOLOL!

What next do you have to explain any downturn that occurs under a Republican party to have nothing to do with their policies, where is any growth that occurs there is clearly a result of supply-side economics? Shady International financiers? Phases of the moon? LOLOLOL!

I wouldnt have supported the 2003 Tax Cut and neither did McCain. The 2017 Tax Bill and the 2003 were different.

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OSR unironically thinks that Obama probably wishes he had lost in 2012 to save the country from Trump. He’s an unwitting troll not worth engaging.

Obviously Obama would have preferred two terms of Romney who probably was the most moderate nominee since 1976 vs a second term where he barely got anything done then(and the things he did where reversed by Trump) and then followed up by Trump

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OSR unironically thinks that Obama probably wishes he had lost in 2012 to save the country from Trump. He’s an unwitting troll not worth engaging.

Obviously Obama would have preferred two terms of Romney who probably was the most moderate nominee since 1976 vs a second term where he barely got anything done then(and the things he did where reversed by Trump) and then followed up by Trump

That's probably true, but he'd prefer Clinton won in 2016 over any of that, so...

Obviously but he would prefer Romney 2012 over OTL

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No Democratic candidate managed to win >30% of the vote in IA or NH in 2020. The last time this happened for either party was in the 1996 Republican primaries, when Bob Dole won IA with 26% and Pat Buchanan won NH with 27%. The last time no Democratic candidate won >30% of the vote in IA or NH was in 1976, when Carter won IA with 28% of the vote (he actually won fewer votes than "uncommitted") and NH with 29%.

Seems like we could be in for a wild primary.

Interesting that Dole won Iowa and Buchanan won New Hampshire rather than the other way around given Iowa's streak of favoring the most religious right-friendly candidate in the Republican caucus in the twenty-first century.

Not really Ford did better in IA than NH in 76 , HW beat Reagan in IA in 1980, and Dole beat HW in 1988.

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No Democratic candidate managed to win >30% of the vote in IA or NH in 2020. The last time this happened for either party was in the 1996 Republican primaries, when Bob Dole won IA with 26% and Pat Buchanan won NH with 27%. The last time no Democratic candidate won >30% of the vote in IA or NH was in 1976, when Carter won IA with 28% of the vote (he actually won fewer votes than "uncommitted") and NH with 29%.

Seems like we could be in for a wild primary.

Interesting that Dole won Iowa and Buchanan won New Hampshire rather than the other way around given Iowa's streak of favoring the most religious right-friendly candidate in the Republican caucus in the twenty-first century.

Not really Ford did better in IA than NH in 76 , HW beat Reagan in IA in 1980, and Dole beat HW in 1988.

But the real question is: are you ever going to learn that neither party still lives in the 1970s or 1980s?

Thats not what I am saying lol , I was responding to the point that Buchanan did better in NH than IA.