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« on: August 10, 2019, 10:53:48 AM »

Is this guy actually powerful or is he a random member of a city party organization. If he is random then this isn’t national news cause their are crazy people out there and we already know that .
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2019, 09:22:56 PM »

Is this guy actually powerful or is he a random member of a city party organization. If he is random then this isn’t national news cause their are crazy people out there and we already know that .

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Whatever the case, as an openly racist diehard Trump supporter, this particular Republican is overwhelmingly more in tune with the current and future direction of the party than you.

Over 70% of House Republicans voted for the fairness for high skilled immigrantion act , and by the way this county Republicans voted overwhelmingly against this measure

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2019/01/10/tarrant-county-gop-shahid-shafi-vote-muslim/amp/



The Republican politicians are the ones who I base my party opinion on not the base as at least 80% of the base probably just votes based on party label only (they were all hacks for George W Bush as well and even bigger ones in Bush Term 1).


The base in general on policy makes opinion on whatever Fox Says
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2019, 12:30:01 AM »

1990s CA GOP: "We just doomed ourselves to be a minority party for generations."

2010s TX GOP: "Hold my beer."

More of national gop because if they lose Texas they will be in the wilderness at the national level similar to the 1980s Dems and then the map will realign after 8-12 years in the wilderness .


A party just cannot win a Presidential election without winning one of CA , TX or NY
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2019, 12:44:43 AM »

1990s CA GOP: "We just doomed ourselves to be a minority party for generations."

2010s TX GOP: "Hold my beer."

More of national gop because if they lose Texas they will be in the wilderness at the national level similar to the 1980s Dems and then the map will realign after 8-12 years in the wilderness .


A party just cannot win a Presidential election without winning one of CA , TX or NY

Don't forget the third largest state, Florida, assuming they don't make the same stupid mistakes there.

Florida is a bit different in terms of trajectory in that it gets a constant resupply of Republicans as a retirement mecca for rich white Republicans and this, plus a more stable political culture that is use to being in a razor thin competition with the Democrats and you have a state that is likely to remain rather close. Granted Republicans have their own problems in the state long term but it might be easy to balance the base that is use to having to compete with Democrats with winning the general far better than TX where it was all about being as conservative as possible to win the primary and then the general was a given for the GOP.

Florida Republicans would also be more likely to discuss environment and climate issues there because there is hardly no energy sector, tourism is important, the land is very low and Hurricanes are a frequent threat. This gives them a big advantage compared to the TX GOP, which is heavily tied to oil interests.


Even with FL , without TX this is how the map would look like even if the Midwest and NH and ME go Republican





They only get to 257 EV and these numbers will only get worse in the 2020s . Without Texas the National GOP will become the National Dems of the 1980s (and Dems in general only thing was they had literal conservatives save them at the House level).


Republicans need Trump to lose in 2020 and with the Dem getting 300 EV or more and having the senate be around 50-50 for the Dems (Manchin puts a halt on the leftist agenda ). Do that and Trumpism will be fully rejected
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2019, 12:59:42 AM »

The problem is not Trumpism, it is policy inflexibility.


There are issues out there no matter which path you take, electorally, that require the GOP to make compromises on some things and that is something that they are not in a position to do.

Republican politicians have to a large extent been drilled down into being uniform and without much variance and they are trained to tow the line or massive army of pressure groups will sever them limb from limb.

In nature when you lack genetic variance, you end up vulnerable to extinction. In politics....


Republicans are not capable of addressing the pressing issues that concern not just swing voters (in either path you take) but also core pieces of the base.

A large number of Trump's voters want cheap drugs and health care access, a number of suburban swing voters want background checks and many younger voters everywhere are concerned about climate change.

Eliminating Trumpism doesn't save the GOP, it just returns it to the same army of lobbyists, donors and think tanks that have chains on the party's neck and prevent it from adapting to the modern reality.


The GOP will probably rue the day they chose George W Bush over McCain in 2000. The Bush years were a disaster  for the GOP and the tea party and Trump are just a consequence of those 8 Bush years
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