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The_Doctor
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« on: November 18, 2016, 09:36:01 PM »

It will be mostly white men. Why? Trump prioritizes loyalty. They're mostly white men around him with some white women. Trump has the ability to be diverse like I have the ability to repress my snark.
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2016, 03:51:15 PM »

So many people here aren't seeing why diversity is important. There are plenty of more-than-qualified women and minorities, selecting just white males shows that you don't care about representing all the American people.

Trump was elected on the basis that diversity is a overrated concept. So..
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2016, 07:39:50 PM »

It will be mostly white men. Why? Trump prioritizes loyalty. They're mostly white men around him with some white women. Trump has the ability to be diverse like I have the ability to repress my snark.

Here's another thing to think about, some people on this forum ask why Trump should select a female or a minority if they aren't "as qualified as white dudes"? Well, if you have surrounded yourself with white people most all your life, you aren't as inclined to know what females and minorities out there have to offer. If Trump wants to drain the swamp and hire some new blood for his cabinet, who says he has to pick a female or minority from the political arena?

He wanted to hire Ben Carson, which actually is to his credit in this regard, but Carson declined.

Honestly, I don't think there's racial intent here. It's just he's always surrounded himself with largely white male executives and advisors and white people. This is who ends up in his Administration. Trump's connection with minorities are extremely lacking. Like, white crust Bush 41 level. W had interacted with Latinos as governor of Texas, Reagan was obviously in a diverse state as CA governor.

But Trump? Never had real minority outreach and neither does his team.

Compare to the last GOP presidency. Bush 43 made a concerted effort to recruit and diversify his Administration, including two black Secretary of States, a Latino Attorney General, and to replicate an Administration that looked like America. A lot of that stuff dates to Bush's governorship in Texas, where he was governor in a state that was very close to minority-majority and he was highly aware of the need to broaden and diversify the GOP coalition.

Now, compare to Trump's experience, which has been rooted and centered in lily white Manhattan, Queens, and New Jersey, and his social circles, which is heavily white.

This is the other reason why prior political/governing experience is needed to become president. You become aware of the country you're supposed to govern. You're aware of the people, the populations, everything. It's why most of our presidents have been governors and senators and military leaders.
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2016, 07:44:37 PM »

This was why nominating the GOP ticket from New York/Indiana is a long term idiotic proposition. You nominated people from a) a social circle that is near 100% white b) the governor of Indiana is from a state with no real minorities and is heavily white.

I can hear you: "How will this affect the GOP?"

Well, Steve Bannon is chief political strategist for the White House ... and thinks that white nationalism will get the GOP 40% of the Latino vote in 2020.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2016, 07:51:38 PM »

Third point. This already hurt the GOP. Trump lost the popular vote when W. won it by 2.5%. How do I know minorities voting Democratic affected the result?

W. won 44% of Latinos in his re-election. He won the popular vote. Trump won 29% (barely above Romney levels) and had the same amount of GOP votes among blacks basically. 1-2% improvement. Among the white vote, he improved by 4% margin wise over W.

This all ended up to boost his popular vote margin by 2% (e.g, W would have won by 4.5% if he had Trump's numbers among whites) but because of 77% of minorities voting against him, he lost the popular vote by 2 million votes.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2016, 07:56:07 PM »

Selecting just white males shows that you don't care about representing all the American people.

So? Why on earth should the cabinet have to represent the demographics of the American people? Forcing equality for its own sake is asinine.

That may be true. But thought question: what if you have no idea what non-white America is about?
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2016, 10:39:10 PM »

So many people here aren't seeing why diversity is important. There are plenty of more-than-qualified women and minorities, selecting just white males shows that you don't care about representing all the American people.

Trump was elected on the basis that diversity is a overrated concept. So..

No, Trump was elected on the basis the selection by diversity is an overrated concept.

It's also racist and about us un-American as you can get.

People should be hired by their qualifications and work ethic, not because their skin pigmentation is slightly darker or because they have a vagina. This is not how America is supposed to work.

No, I repeat Trump was elected on the basis of diversity being an overrated concept.

The Alt-Right is a white nationalist group that backs him and he condones/accepts. Many of his supporters are white nationalists. These people believe quite ardently that white America is in decline and that they are being robbed of their cultural identity. Trump won their support through a series of implicit and explicit statements. Let's not beat around the bush about some of the motivations that propelled Trump supporters.

Do I agree picking someone because they're black or blue or whatever is stupid? Absolutely. Do I think that having a 100% white male cabinet or like, 90-100% is a good idea? No. Do I think that having a 100% black or brown cabinet is a good idea? No.

Do I think that presidents should strike a balance in their cabinet, picking people who share their ideology but are diverse? Yes. See: Bush, George Walker.
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