Does anyone else feel like Democrats are doing to 'MAGA' what Republicans did to 'socialism'?

[RINO Tom]

The difference is democrats are using MAGA accurately

Should Republicans have said, "People who would probably be A-okay with implementing actual socialism if they had the political capital to do so but for now will settle for as much as they can reasonably get passed via legislation"?

[RINO Tom]

The difference is democrats are using MAGA accurately

Should Republicans have said, "People who would probably be A-okay with implementing actual socialism if they had the political capital to do so but for now will settle for as much as they can reasonably get passed via legislation"?

Show me a democrat in leadership or the White House that’d do that

Pretty much as soon as public opinion “catches up,” every left-leaning party tries to enact as much change as possible - including Democrats.  I’ll maintain people are gullible if they don’t think most leaders on the left in America would prefer our economy was structured more like a Nordic country than what it currently is … and I’m sure I’ll be met with, “And what’s wrong with that?!”  And that will prove my point.  The vast majority are at the very least incredibly sympathetic to making our currently significantly more socialist than it currently is, and I have to laugh that a left-leaning party would take that win with a chill “We did it!” and rest easy.

[RINO Tom]

They did this with racist at least 10-15 years ago and are in the process of doing it with fascist.

...  I’ll maintain people are gullible if they don’t think most leaders on the left in America would prefer our economy was structured more like a Nordic country than what it currently is … and I’m sure I’ll be met with, “And what’s wrong with that?!”
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I would like to hear what are YOUR top three things that would be "really horrible" for the US, if we actually structured ourselves more like a "Nordic country."
And if you are going to disclose those top three things, also give us your thought on the top three things that YOU would be willing to admit that might/would be better.

So you're saying his initial comment was right then......

What "initial (part of his) comment" are you referring to, exactly?

The premise of the thread is that critiques of the American left as "socialists" are unrealistic and then tying that into the alleged overuse of the word MAGA. Rino Tom asserted that it was accurate to call them socialists since most of them privately support a Nordic style economy to which you replied by defending socialism. Which proves the point he was making, he even pointed that out and you snipped it out when you quoted him. 

This is the usual Atlas red and red adjacent av rhetorical strategy of denying a thing is happening while simultaneously defending the thing.

Where did I "defend socialism"?

I said most on the left would prefer we move toward a Nordic-type economy even if they won’t admit it publicly.  Your first and only comment, rather than refute that, was to effectively say, “What’s wrong with a Nordic economy”?!  And it proved my point exactly.

[RINO Tom]

The difference is democrats are using MAGA accurately

Should Republicans have said, "People who would probably be A-okay with implementing actual socialism if they had the political capital to do so but for now will settle for as much as they can reasonably get passed via legislation"?

Show me a democrat in leadership or the White House that’d do that

Pretty much as soon as public opinion “catches up,” every left-leaning party tries to enact as much change as possible - including Democrats.  I’ll maintain people are gullible if they don’t think most leaders on the left in America would prefer our economy was structured more like a Nordic country than what it currently is … and I’m sure I’ll be met with, “And what’s wrong with that?!”  And that will prove my point.  The vast majority are at the very least incredibly sympathetic to making our currently significantly more socialist than it currently is, and I have to laugh that a left-leaning party would take that win with a chill “We did it!” and rest easy.

So you’re indictment is that democrats are secretly wanting to do the will of the people?

You’ve also betrayed the point. “More socialist” is not the same as “socialist”. The whole economic debate is whether we’re more socialist if capitalist, which is not the same as being socialist or capitalist. Also socialism is an economic model so I fail to see how Scandinavia’s gross discrimination against Muslims is relevant to their general economic policy.

Lmao what?

1. I’m saying quite the opposite, as should be incredibly obvious.  Democrats want a significantly more culturally and economically left wing society, and they’ll only ever campaign on what they think is achievable at any given moment.  Then if public opinion shifts left, they’ll pounce and enact more left wing policies that they supported all along.  Anyone seriously think Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?  *Preparing myself for you to entirely miss the point and start actually debating about whether or not gay marriage should be legal, lol*

2. No, I didn’t betray it at all.  I asserted that Democrats quite obviously want America’s economy to be “more socialist,” and I questioned the intelligence of anyone who believed a left leaning party’s voters would just halt after that political victory and not push for more.

3. I didn’t say anything about Muslim discrimination, but they’re indeed somewhat related.  Social Democratic societies only work if you have a secure border, and they often naturally lead to more xenophobia when so much of your money is going toward taxes to fund a state bureaucracy that is supposed to improve the quality of life in your country … those folks will obviously turn on illegal immigrants immediately, and they’ll probably be about as enthusiastic to subsidize legal immigrant communities that haven’t “assimilated” as Manhattanites will be to subsidize the healthcare, public services, higher education of hardcore Trumpers in West Virginia and Mississippi.