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RINO Tom
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« on: June 30, 2017, 09:49:56 AM »

1976: Wallace
1980: Abstain
1984: Reagan
1988: Dole
1992: Buchanan
1996: Buchanan
2000: Abstain
2004: Abstain
2008: Huckabee
2012: Santorum
2016: Cruz

Not comin' at you on a Friday, friend, but I think anyone who votes for someone whose main mark on history was standing for legal segregation of the races should at least try to explain himself, LOL.  Why the Wallace vote, if I my ask?

Anyway, I'd vote all Republican except for Clinton over Buchanan in 1996.
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RINO Tom
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E: 2.45, S: -0.52

« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2017, 09:51:17 AM »

1976: Wallace
1980: Carter
1984: Hollings
1988: Gore

1992: Buchanan
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

2004: Bush
2008: Huckabee

2012: Landrieu
2016: Webb


I thought I remembered you as somewhat of a moderate Republican, especially on social issues.  Given the Southern Democrat love, was I mistaken?  LOL.
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RINO Tom
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E: 2.45, S: -0.52

« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2017, 02:54:18 PM »

1976: Wallace
1980: Carter
1984: Hollings
1988: Gore

1992: Buchanan
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

2004: Bush
2008: Huckabee

2012: Landrieu
2016: Webb


I thought I remembered you as somewhat of a moderate Republican, especially on social issues.  Given the Southern Democrat love, was I mistaken?  LOL.

This is mostly a function of the Republican runners-up being awful and my unusual infatuation with Jimmy Carter.   Bob Dole and John McCain are some of my least favorite Republican politicians, and Santorum and Cruz are rather detestable as well. 

I'm curious as to why the hate for Dole particularly.

The South and Midwest (especially Great Plains) have always competed over agricultural interests.  Even though both of these regions today are mostly GOP, the tension remains.  Bob Dole was pretty much the modern manifestation of Alf Landon-style Great Plains conservatism, and John McCain actually draws more from this school of Republican orthodoxy than the Bush/Rockefeller Northeastern Establishment or the "New South" Firebrands like Trent Lott or Saxby Chambliss.   

Care to define Alf Landon conservatism and explain its repugnance?

Not sure I'd be able to explain it very intelligently, but I knew exactly what he meant.  The Midwest (especially the Plains) has seemed to be the traditional home of post-1800s American conservatism, and I think it's maintained a more business-oriented, "dignified" approach to conservatism than (as Del accurately put it) the more "firebrand" style of Southern conservatives.  Kind of like porn ... you know it when you see it?
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2017, 10:15:38 AM »

Del, I didn't mean to say that Midwesterners WERE more "dignified" in their conservatism, just that maybe they fancied themselves so. Wink
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2017, 11:09:58 AM »

Del, I didn't mean to say that Midwesterners WERE more "dignified" in their conservatism, just that maybe they fancied themselves so. Wink


The Midwest has not been a historically conservative region , most of the conservatives Uptil 1994 came from the Western States or the northeast . Only state from Mideast that I would say has had notable conservatives were from Ohio

What?!  FDR's strongest opposition was from the Plains.  It was the first region to totally turn on the New Deal.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 03:08:01 PM »

Del, I didn't mean to say that Midwesterners WERE more "dignified" in their conservatism, just that maybe they fancied themselves so. Wink


The Midwest has not been a historically conservative region , most of the conservatives Uptil 1994 came from the Western States or the northeast . Only state from Mideast that I would say has had notable conservatives were from Ohio

What?!  FDR's strongest opposition was from the Plains.  It was the first region to totally turn on the New Deal.


not midwest

Does your phone not automatically capitalize the first word of a sentence for you?

LOL, I mean ... he probably uses a computer. Wink
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RINO Tom
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E: 2.45, S: -0.52

« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2017, 04:20:23 PM »

Del, I didn't mean to say that Midwesterners WERE more "dignified" in their conservatism, just that maybe they fancied themselves so. Wink


The Midwest has not been a historically conservative region , most of the conservatives Uptil 1994 came from the Western States or the northeast . Only state from Mideast that I would say has had notable conservatives were from Ohio

What?!  FDR's strongest opposition was from the Plains.  It was the first region to totally turn on the New Deal.


not midwest

Does your phone not automatically capitalize the first word of a sentence for you?

LOL, I mean ... he probably uses a computer. Wink

His excuse for his multitude of typos was that he was typing on mobile.

Hahaha, seriously?  He reminds me of my buddy with huge hands that can't text for shlt, and we have all just gotten used to it.

Anyway, the poster in question has WAY more grammatical problems than simple typos, unfortunately.
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