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RINO Tom
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« on: May 03, 2017, 09:11:20 PM »

The "Liberal Republicans" died long before the "Conservative Democrats" did.  The last GOP Senator that I would describe as a "liberal" was Lowell Weicker.  The last GOP Representative I would describe as "liberal would be Chris Shays. 

If this type of Republican couldn't win the GOP nomination at a time when the GOP base was in New England, how will Baker win in 2020?  Or ever?  Religious conservatives will veto Baker on the ticket in the same manner that Big Labor vetoed Jimmy Byrnes as FDR's VP in 1944.

Uh, guess they didn't die then.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2017, 09:26:45 PM »

The "Liberal Republicans" died long before the "Conservative Democrats" did.  The last GOP Senator that I would describe as a "liberal" was Lowell Weicker.  The last GOP Representative I would describe as "liberal would be Chris Shays. 

If this type of Republican couldn't win the GOP nomination at a time when the GOP base was in New England, how will Baker win in 2020?  Or ever?  Religious conservatives will veto Baker on the ticket in the same manner that Big Labor vetoed Jimmy Byrnes as FDR's VP in 1944.

Uh, guess they didn't die then.

I think he meant at the federal level, which is certainly true. And no, Olympia Snowe was not a liberal Republican either. Honestly, the closest politician in the mold of Rockefeller, at this point, is Lincoln Chafee lol.

Personally, I'd never call Snowe a "liberal," and there certainly were some Republicans back in the day who were way more liberal than any elected GOPer now.  However, I think it's important to remember that the expressions "liberal Republican" and "conservative Democrat" mean "liberal FOR A REPUBLICAN" and "conservative FOR A DEMOCRAT."  I think if you transported Atlas back in time to the 1950s, a lot of so-called liberal or "Rockefeller Republicans" would receive about the same level of (lack of) respect that is awarded to Snowe and Collins.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2017, 11:47:03 AM »

I'm probably voting for Baker for stability's sake, but I wouldn't vote for him for any national office. He only really has crossover appeal in Massachusetts because people here prefer our Governor to be a little more cautious with our money.

But not for the President to be more cautious with the nation's money?
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2017, 01:25:45 PM »

The "Liberal Republicans" died long before the "Conservative Democrats" did.  The last GOP Senator that I would describe as a "liberal" was Lowell Weicker.  The last GOP Representative I would describe as "liberal would be Chris Shays. 

If this type of Republican couldn't win the GOP nomination at a time when the GOP base was in New England, how will Baker win in 2020?  Or ever?  Religious conservatives will veto Baker on the ticket in the same manner that Big Labor vetoed Jimmy Byrnes as FDR's VP in 1944.

Would Governor Phil Scott of Vermont be a "Liberal Republican"?

Most posters here define "liberal Republican" by when you retired and how far removed you are from the current GOP that they don't like, not by their actual views.
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