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Question: Which county will be more Democratic in 2024?
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Williamson County, TN
 
#2
Livingston County, MI
 
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RINO Tom
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« on: February 13, 2017, 04:13:22 PM »

Williamson County, TN will remain more Republican, of course.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2017, 11:41:33 AM »

I'm not familiar with Livingston County, MI, but Williamson County just gave two-thirds of its vote to the worst possible fit for a Republican nominee for the county- and did not have a single precinct vote for Hillary Clinton.  If Trump does well the first place he will win back in 2020 are these sorts of suburbs- and these are the types of places that would LOVE Mike Pence- he probably could get 75% of the vote there in 2020.  It gives nearly 80% of the vote to Marsha Blackburn (who is no moderate) every two years.  And, unlike other suburbs, it is very socially conservative, with high church attendance and having voted overwhelmingly to overturn Tennessee's version of Roe v. Wade in 2014 (even though it specifically said that there were no exceptions, including rape, incest, and when the life of the mother is in danger).  This county is not getting more Democratic, much less in a mere eight years.

And, Eharding, where do you think these very fiscally and socially conservative ideological conservatives would go if not the Republican Party?

Whether he thinks this will happen or not, he WANTS them to become solid Democratic voters so that he can paint Democrats as a party of elites, which they oh-so-clearly are not now.  He would have fit in very well with past versions of the Democratic Party, and he wants an ideological heir ... he for some reason thinks a future GOP might be that, and he's determined to make that party system a reality.

The opposite of me, pretty much, problem is people like me aren't becoming Democrats to help fulfill the prophecy, LOL.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2017, 01:46:28 PM »

I'm not familiar with Livingston County, MI, but Williamson County just gave two-thirds of its vote to the worst possible fit for a Republican nominee for the county- and did not have a single precinct vote for Hillary Clinton.  If Trump does well the first place he will win back in 2020 are these sorts of suburbs- and these are the types of places that would LOVE Mike Pence- he probably could get 75% of the vote there in 2020.  It gives nearly 80% of the vote to Marsha Blackburn (who is no moderate) every two years.  And, unlike other suburbs, it is very socially conservative, with high church attendance and having voted overwhelmingly to overturn Tennessee's version of Roe v. Wade in 2014 (even though it specifically said that there were no exceptions, including rape, incest, and when the life of the mother is in danger).  This county is not getting more Democratic, much less in a mere eight years.

And, Eharding, where do you think these very fiscally and socially conservative ideological conservatives would go if not the Republican Party?

Whether he thinks this will happen or not, he WANTS them to become solid Democratic voters so that he can paint Democrats as a party of elites, which they oh-so-clearly are not now.  He would have fit in very well with past versions of the Democratic Party, and he wants an ideological heir ... he for some reason thinks a future GOP might be that, and he's determined to make that party system a reality.

The opposite of me, pretty much, problem is people like me aren't becoming Democrats to help fulfill the prophecy, LOL.

-You voted for HRC! That's halfway to "becoming Democrat"! You even call yourself a RINO. Yes, I'd be fine with Rubio and many Kasich voters moving to the party of less economic freedom. That way, the Dems could become a totally horrible party, including within it bought robotic hacks such as Romney and Rubio, and RINOs such as Kasich.

1) Sometimes, voting against an insane man goes beyond and says nothing about your political ideology.

2) RINO is completely sarcastic, making fun of people who use it seriously.  If you're a registered Republican and that's the party you choose to belong to and you actively shape the party's discourse, you are a Republican.  Period.  I probably have a more Republican voting history than you by a LONG shot, so I will not allow a Trump worshiper to redefine conservatism to me, thank you.

3) I know you'd be fine with it, it's your political wet dream.  Problem is, it ain't happenin'.  Never will.  The Democrats know it'd be electoral suicide to adopt policies conservative enough to attract these Republican "elites" you speak of, and they never will.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2017, 09:16:39 PM »

EHarding, I support free trade, care more about traditional social and economic issues and less about nationalism, and voted for Rubio in the Tennessee primary.  Do you think I should be a Democrat?

-You'd currently stand out like a cactus in a desert with those kind of social and economic scores, so, not yet. Wait a couple decades.

Can't wait until you're wrong as , LOL.  It'll be a glorious day when you register as a Democrat where your heart belongs.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2017, 08:59:37 PM »

RINO Tom is terribly afraid of the Republicans becoming the party of White working class voters and not "affluent" rich people. I don't know why you are so convinced that Eharding's theory is wrong and that Democrats doing well with rich voters was a one-time thing. I think it's a trend, but we'll see.

Yeah, yeah, you make yourself as clear as I make myself, even if I'm more blunt, buddy.  You want a different GOP than I want, and I'm confident my vision will win out.  We'll see indeed.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2017, 11:03:52 PM »

I believe GOP should be the party of small business and upper middle class workers not blue collar workers

-This thread isn't about what should be; it's about what will happen. In any case, there's plenty of small business and upper middle class in both counties; both are those counties with the highest median household income in their respective states. It's just the electorate of one is far more college-educated and swung harder against Trump than the other.

Correct, and Bernie Sanders supporters are not switching parties; neither are movement conservatives.

And that's about the end of it for now.
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