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Mr. Smith
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« on: December 04, 2021, 01:03:58 AM »

Yes.

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Mr. Smith
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2021, 07:22:24 PM »

Possibly, but no one will ever convince me Trump winning 2020 would be good for Democrats. Trump was a dangerous lunatic, it is an immeasurable good he is no longer in a position of power, for now at least.
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Had Trump won re-election, Democrats were never winning another national election again.

Trump winning election in the first place was supposed to be the end too.
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Mr. Smith
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2021, 11:01:29 PM »

Possibly, but no one will ever convince me Trump winning 2020 would be good for Democrats. Trump was a dangerous lunatic, it is an immeasurable good he is no longer in a position of power, for now at least.
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Had Trump won re-election, Democrats were never winning another national election again.

Trump winning election in the first place was supposed to be the end too.
And we came 'this' close

We were moments away from a mad mob killing Pelosi, Schumer, Pence, Romney and atleast one Democratic senator...

Because he lost.  Not helping the case,

You think this wouldn't have happened if Hillary won? Ha! Would you like my ski chalet in Delaware?


Of course it was and Joe Biden winning was a disaster for Dems.  They should have seen it coming (I did) and just let Trump win in 2020.  Once RBG died and Trump replaced her, pretty much any good  reason for Dems to want Biden to win went out the window.

Democrats have pretty much had three Presidents in a row that have progressively destroyed the party more and more downballot (Clinton, Obama, and Biden). 

Ok, say Joe Biden loses in 2020 and Trump gets another term with the senate still Republican and the House narrowly Democratic. 2022 is a Democratic wave again, with Democrats gaining 15-20 House seats and picking up the senate. A Democrat wins big in 2024 and with larger majorities actually passes some good policies. Wouldn't the Democrats still face problems in 2026 and beyond then? That would just have delayed the next backlash for four years.

I think it's possible neither party will ever hold a trifecta for more than two years in the coming years and decades.

Yes, but maybe they take back a lot of downballot offices and actually put in safeguards too, and they get all sorts done before the backlash.

Instead, the backlash was invited early by default.
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