The Official 2020 Census Thread

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Americans strongly favour the inclusion of the Citizenship Question, even Blacks and Latinos:

The Hill/HarrisX Poll: Majority of Americans Want Citizenship Question on the Census, Including Hispanics

6 in 10 registered voters, 60 percent, in a Hill-HarrisX survey released Tuesday said that the U.S. Census Bureau should ask the citizenship question. Another 21 percent said the question should not be included, while 19 percent were unsure.

Despite partisan differences, a majority of voters from all demographics included in the Hill-HarrisX survey said they believed the citizenship question should be included.

White voters overwhelmingly supported the question, with 65 percent in favor and 17 percent opposed. Black respondents favored asking about citizenship by a 53-19 percent margin.  Hispanic respondents supported it, 53-28 percent.

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Census policy isn't decided by plebescite.

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The question in and of itself isn’t the problem. The problem is the manner in which the question was included and what they plan to use said question for.

So, they are planning to use the citizenship data to re-district by citizenship ?

That may sound absurd to many on the Left, but is already practiced in countries such as Germany or Austria.

The number of seats allocated to states or districts for our parliaments is allocated by citizenship and not by the overall number of the population.

After all, voting is only granted to citizens in elections as well ...

You may find that absurd from a leftist point of view, but it would be consistent.

It wouldn't be consistent with the Constitution though, which says the total population must be counted, but does not specify citizenship. If you live somewhere permenantly, you are part of the population.

You are wrong.

You are spinning it as if non-citizens are not counted. That is not the case.

All people in the US are counted in the 2020 Census, citizenship is only a sub-question of the whole census form.

Which means every non-citizen in the US still has the free will and opportunity to be counted. The Democrats just need to stop their fear-based campaign, as well as all the non-citizens who are potentially afraid, because there is nothing to fear. Every non-citizen can easily fill out their census form anonymously over the Internet and none of their data will be forwarded to ICE etc. - because everything is protected under strict privacy laws.

When the president of the united states is out there proclaiming that he's going to send secret police out to round up and deport non-citizens, you don't think that would have an effect on whether those non-citizens would want to answer a census with a question on it identifying them as non-citizens? Perhaps everything is protected under law. That's fine. But if you were a non-citizen, would you place your full confidence in your and your family's well-being on that law?

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Telemundo/Mason Dixon poll of Latinos in 4 important states:

QUESTION: Do you plan to participate in the 2020 U.S. Census?

CA: 93-4 Yes
TX: 94-3 Yes
FL: 92-4 Yes
NY: 93-3 Yes

QUESTION: Do you support or oppose including a question regarding legal status or U.S. citizenship in the 2020 U.S. Census?

CA: 50-38 Support
TX: 50-37 Support
FL: 58-32 Support
NY: 48-42 Support

https://www.nbcumv.com/news/telemundo-station-group-hispanic-opinion-poll-hispanics-ca-tx-fl-and-new-york-city-are-more

The Supreme Court doesn't, and shouldn't, operate on popular opinion. Neither should the people in charge of ensuring the census has the most accurate count possible. This is idiocy.

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Just announced:

The Supreme Court will rule on the case tomorrow.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-cases/supreme-court-to-issue-census-electoral-map-rulings-on-thursday-idUSKCN1TR2EZ

It is possible that ruling is that they push it back down to the lower courts.

Highly unlikely.

The forms need to be printed starting next week, so why would they push it back ?

Because of a large amount of extremely relevant new evidence that has emerged?

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https://twitter.com/finnygo/status/1149287854633357314

Prepare for fireworks.

I know “constitutional crisis” gets thrown around a lot, but...