Democrats: Do you support forcibly removing Manchin from the democratic caucus?

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

This should be interesting.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

No of course not, but his voting record makes no sense.  It's not as if Trump voters will like him more if he votes for a guy like Mnuchin.  All he has managed to do with his votes is alienate many of his Democratic supporters.  My guess is that he's planning to retire and is looking for a lobbyist job.  He's beginning to remind me of Ben Nelson, the Democratic Senator from Nebraska who sabotaged any efforts to add a public option to the ACA, and now works as an executive for the insurance industry with a 7-digit salary.

Obligatory reminder that Obama was also opposed to the public option. Nelson's opposition wasn't needed to derail it.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

No, just primary him in 2018.

As much as I may dislike some of Manchin's positions, I'd still much rather have him holding a senate seat then another alt-right WV Republican, which is exactly what will happen if he loses a primary. Better to have someone who is right half of the time than someone who is wrong all of the time. He's pretty much the best we're going to get from a state like West Virginia these days. Quite frankly people like Manchin help the Democrats' brand in Appalachia, and given the region's crippling poverty it is a true testament to how damaging the elitist image that the party has been successfully painted with by the right in recent times, that states with so many problems economically would vote for the party of the 1%

They don't see it as voting for the party of the 1%, they see it as voting for the party who respects the coal industry.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

^ For whatever reason, Abortion has become the democrats signature cause. Even more so than Climate Change - Tester, Donnelly, and Heitkamp are pro-coal (I'll address Manchin below), and no one important cares. No one important cared about the group of dems who supported/were open to the idea of Keystone either.  Even more so than Gun Control - I didn't see anyone complaining about Pro-Gun Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick being the nominee against McCain, for instance. But for some reason, when it comes to Abortion, it is suddenly unforgivable to oppose it. There are two pro-life dems left in the senate. One is Bob Casey, who is quite low-profile. The other is Manchin, who is consistently criticized for not being liberal enough. And I honestly think it's over Abortion. Yes, Manchin is pro-coal, bit so is Tester, and no one claims he's not a real democrat. It's not guns, because Manchin did Manchin-Toomey. This started before Trump, so it's not just the cabinet stuff. The only difference left between Manchin and other romney state senators is Abortion.

And it's honestly sad that this is the case, that a major political party has as its Signature Issue destruction of our own species. And this gets into part of why I am not a single issue abortion voter - I believe that Democrats are basically forced to be pro-choice, whether they like it or not. I believe there are dems in congress right now, although I'm not exactly sure who, who want to advocate pro-life policies, or at least things like an outright 24 week ban, but are forced into silence by the Democratic base. I don't know why the base has destruction as their signature issue, but it's the way it is, and it's one of the worst things about our political system. And I don't know how to begin changing it. I don't want a 535-0 R Congress.