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Author Topic: Most Partisan Modern President Besides The Obvious Two?  (Read 3498 times)
Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« on: August 04, 2018, 03:14:11 PM »

I don’t think this question has been outright asked before. Even so, I know the obvious answers would be Trump and Nixon. So besides those two, who has been the biggest partisan hack to occupy the White House in the last 85 years?

I’m going with Obama. He didn’t even bother to sit down with the Republicans, and even if they were partially to blame, he still disproportionately blamed them for every problem they had, even those of his own making. He’s been very active in partisan politics since he left, even more so than other former Presidents, who just weigh in on general issues, usually without a partisan bent.
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2018, 03:20:21 PM »

To those voting Reagan

https://www.politico.com/story/2012/02/reagans-legacy-of-constructive-bipartisanship-072468

He had a good relationship with the Democratic House. He had to. His not planting his feet in the mud after a while automatically makes him less partisan than Obama in my view.
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2018, 03:27:11 PM »


I’m going with Obama. He didn’t even bother to sit down with the Republicans, and even if they were partially to blame, he still disproportionately blamed them for every problem they had, even those of his own making.

LOL. Republicans really do live in their own little world. The Republicans got 95% of what they wanted in every bipartisan deal under Obama EXCEPT the one time Patty Murray led negotiations (which were on the budget -- she actually got a very favorable deal for Democrats, which just goes to show it wasn't inevitable that Democrats give away the barn to Republicans every other time.)

Also, Obama has been exceptionally NOT active in partisan politics, which you would realize if you were old enough to remember more than W and Obama. The only reason W was even less active was because no one wanted to be seen with him.

Dude he just released a list of 81 endorsements. campaigned for Ralph Northam, and released an essay rebuking the current administration’s decision against the Iran Deal. And did he not plant his feet in the mud after a while, yes or no?

Also, no need to be condescending. Big problem with Atlas Dems.
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2018, 03:30:39 PM »

Anyways, the obvious answer is the senior Bush who literally spent his entire life in an isolated bubble of rich Republican families and whose entire career in politics prior to his Presidency was as a mindless party drone. He even carried water for Nixon as RNC chairman right up until he resigned (even when most Republicans in both houses of congress were in favor of impeachment.)

You seem to have a different definition of partisan. He had a pretty good relationship with Congress. He wouldn’t have agreed to the budget deal and broken his biggest campaign theme if he didn’t.
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2018, 03:33:16 PM »


I’m going with Obama. He didn’t even bother to sit down with the Republicans, and even if they were partially to blame, he still disproportionately blamed them for every problem they had, even those of his own making.

LOL. Republicans really do live in their own little world. The Republicans got 95% of what they wanted in every bipartisan deal under Obama EXCEPT the one time Patty Murray led negotiations (which were on the budget -- she actually got a very favorable deal for Democrats, which just goes to show it wasn't inevitable that Democrats give away the barn to Republicans every other time.)

Also, Obama has been exceptionally NOT active in partisan politics, which you would realize if you were old enough to remember more than W and Obama. The only reason W was even less active was because no one wanted to be seen with him.

Dude he just released a list of 81 endorsements. campaigned for Ralph Northam, and released an essay rebuking the current administration’s decision against the Iran Deal. And did he not plant his feet in the mud after a while, yes or no?

Also, no need to be condescending. Big problem with Atlas Dems.

*says something blatantly untrue and gets called out on it*

"Woah, why are you being mean to me?"

Sorry snowflake, this isn't your fake news safe zone where you get to rewrite history.

1. Opinions are subjective
2. Your response was, to me, and probably others, very condescending
3. You’re being condescending IMO again
4. Your side is in no position to throw the “snowflake” label to avoid actually addressing my points.
5. I read multiple sides to every story to make sure I get the right information.
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2018, 08:40:52 PM »

I’m going with Obama. He didn’t even bother to sit down with the Republicans, and even if they were partially to blame, he still disproportionately blamed them for every problem they had, even those of his own making. He’s been very active in partisan politics since he left, even more so than other former Presidents, who just weigh in on general issues, usually without a partisan bent.

What a human centipede of a post.

Bad habit of mine, I admit.
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Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2018, 09:04:32 AM »

Ok, this whole debate has revolved around Reagan, but why is Bush 2 the most popular voted option here? NCLB was spearheaded as a cooperative effort by Ted Kennedy and Judd Gregg, he signed the first round of bailouts/stimulus, seemed fairly comfortable with Pelosi when she was Speaker, and signed Medicare Part D. He was definitely no bipartisan hero, but THE most partisan?
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