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  For lefties only: more evil, traditional conservatives or libertarians? (search mode)
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Question: Which one is more evil?
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Traditional conservatives
 
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Libertarians
 
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Equally evil
 
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« on: April 25, 2017, 02:46:32 PM »

I prefer somebody who worships Yahweh or what have you than somebody who worships mammon.
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2017, 07:19:16 AM »

.I never know why the two idealogies are supposed to be at odds - I blame the political compass myself. I know libertarians all seem to follow the Silicon Valley hacker aesthetic, but a libertarian society would almost certainly resemble "traditionalist" values. Take one of the big reforms of early progressivism: the establishment of a secular, comprehensive and public education system, which largely replaced the early philanthropic and faith-run alternatives. If libertarians got their way, it would revert to the traditional way. Same with other public duties - the benevolent philanthropist and the Church are essential allies of the libertarian. The state should be reduced, in other words, to an army (most libertarians are nationalists, given they rather spectacularly have their cake and eat it to) funded by some regressive means. Even other 'traditional' pillars of society would need to be recruited, especially to calm unionism​ (after all, Cleveland the great classical liberal President brutally put down strikes): so the police again becomes a useful ally.

So the libertarian state would be a nationalist, but not imperialist or intervention society with a strong but purely internal military and police funded largely via regressive taxation and public services largely operated by fees, religion or charity. In other words: how America used to be.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2017, 08:01:13 AM »

They oppose military intervention and foroegn bases, so the military would be purely be internal.
They oppose progressive taxation and prefer recessive taxation.

Ergo...
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