Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread

[Saint Milei]

That is not true. The centrist think tanks know Bernie is the only candidate who can get a Medicare for all or some sort of that legislation passed & are worried about it.

Lmao.

The "centrists" (whatever the hell that means these days) don't want Sanders because they think he would blow the election. His campaign is being run by morons and that what spooks them.

They aren't scared of Bernie getting MFA passed. They know that is DOA given how the Senate is made up.

This is factual tbh

[Saint Milei]

That is not true. The centrist think tanks know Bernie is the only candidate who can get a Medicare for all or some sort of that legislation passed & are worried about it.

Lmao.

The "centrists" (whatever the hell that means these days) don't want Sanders because they think he would blow the election. His campaign is being run by morons and that what spooks them.

They aren't scared of Bernie getting MFA passed. They know that is DOA given how the Senate is made up.

This is factual tbh

No, both are false. Sanders would win the election, but he also wouldn't get any of his policies through a Democratic Congress because that party is as deep in corporate cash as the GOP. The reason they oppose him is he would be a symbolic rejection of them, even though they would pretty much still control the entire infrastructure of the party.

Sanders has zero chance

[Saint Milei]

There's a lot of reasons to oppose this:
1. It's messed up to forgive debt and ignore everyone who paid their debt off
2. It doesn't address the rising costs of college
3. It won't address the rising number of students who will attend college knowing that one bailout will lead to another
4. What about those debts that won't be forgiven
5. It's political pandering

[Saint Milei]

Crazy Bernie proposed cancelling all student loan debt. I think we're just about done here. Really amazing how low quality this gigantic field is. Rivals the non-Trump 2016 GOP.

Tell me how this is a bad idea? If we could afford a $2.3T tax cut, why can't we afford to relieve $1.5T of student debt?

We can afford both, but neither is a good use of public wealth. This is toxic stuff. Democrats will rue day the day that Warren introduced this no-good, awful, very bad idea to the electorate.

Why is cancelling student loan debt a bad use of public wealth, in your opinion?

It's redistribution targetted toward a narrow group of people, most of whom need it less than the median American. It does nothing to address the underlying causes of student debt. It's also politically toxic. Bankruptcy protection, public service forgiveness, and income based repayment should be enough here.

This program is so expensive that we would do more good splitting the money evenly and writing every person in the country a check. There's no shortage of better proposals: single payer health care, two years of tuition-free post-seconsary education or training, high speed rail, climate change preparedness, primary health care expansion, Social Security expansion, the list goes on and on and on. The idea that we would have no idea what to do with additional public funds without a student debt jubilee is beyond ridiculous.

This is what people tend to overlook the most when looking at this proposal. The PBS Newshour did a piece on how most of these debt packages would go to the children of white, upper-middle-class suburban families, but people are acting like this is some kind of redistribution policy to assist the poor and needy. Even if you want these kinds of government handouts, shouldn't your primary goal be to help people who are in a bad financial situation through no fault of their own, not people who chose to go into debt voluntarily?

I never thought about this

[Saint Milei]

Oh, now they are preparing for the destruction of the American sovereignty through contrarian voting for Trump. Great job leftists, great job.


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Omar in not eligible to be President...

so happy she isnt

[Saint Milei]

Bernie has a 0% chance at this point.

The only question at this point is whether he will do so badly (less than 10% in the first four states) that he'll basically have to drop out or if he will be able to scrap up 15% everywhere and justify symbolically staying in until the convention as he has announced his intention to do.

We saw the Bernie playbook in 2016. We heard his one speech. There are no tricks left in his bag and even the old tricks don't work as well because all the other candidates are doing them too. Nothing is going to save him.

I don't see him dropping out though. He might even stay in until the convention again.

He didn't drop out in 2016 because he knew Clinton would pivot to the center the moment he was gone. That won't be the case this time.

He "knew" something would happen that ended up not actually happening?

Clinton adopted much of Sanders's platform. Say what you want about whether or not you think that was sincere. If you think it's not sincere, then stop acting like there is anything she could have actually done to appease Sanders voters on "the left" because there's no way she could falsify the belief that she was actually going to govern like a progressive.

The two main difference between Sanders and Clinton were that Sanders backed single payer (Hillary never adopted this position) and that Sanders opposed the Iraq War (it was impossible for Hillary to change her position on this without a time machine).

Aside from Biden, most of the candidates running against Sanders now 1) have backed single payer and 2) weren't in office when the Iraq War was voted on.

This is why Sanders did relatively well against Clinton but is struggle to remain in the double digits when faced with Warren, Harris, O'Rourke, etc.

There's also the other people are better at connecting ideas and issues with voters thing. Sanders sucks at conveying his message

[Saint Milei]

Bernie needs to articulate his positions better because americans are stupid.

[Saint Milei]

twitter is eating the ncaap and bernie alive for his response