PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

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Fetterman should run for Governor.

He can keep PA blue.

[Suburbia]

Fetterman's done.

He can't win a Democratic primary when he was involved in a 2013 scuffle with a Black jogger. The Democratic Party is the social justice party, they empathize with Ahmaud Arbery, etc.

Fetterman is too WWC for the Dems.......

Innamorato or Sumner Lee will probably get a lot of votes if they run on this.....

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/538175-senate-candidate-fetterman-defends-actions-in-2013-gun-incident-with

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I can’t wait for the hideous fallout if democrats loose this election.

Why, other than Fetterman pulling a gun on a Black jogger, because he is a white male and he appeals to the WWC in Middle Pennsylvania and the Pittsburgh suburbs?

The Dems look foolish with the "should we nominate the white guy or the person of color, or etc." Identity politics shouldn't be the No. 1 criteria.....

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This is only a rumor I'm personally hearing from GOP insiders I know and trust, but said sources that tell me this are generally pretty reliable. People online are saying this too and certain tabloids are hyping this up, but again- I trust the insider sources, and not the tabloids.

Apparently he could specifically  specifically announce this on Hannity in the next few days. I still wouldn't get too cocky to bet on it, but it honestly seems ever more likely by each passing day.

Announcing on Hannity rather than Tucker leads me to believe he'll run as a traditional muh economy muh socialism Republican. Ugh, hopefully someone better wins the primary.

He's a suburban Republican.

However, Enes Kanter went on Tucker recently and he is hardly a populist national conservative. You overestimate the political implications of someone appearing on a certain news anchor's show.

He should run in New Jersey, where he lives. He doesn't live in PA.

He should run against Bob Menendez in 2024, he could give the NJGOP their first Senate win since 1972.

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This is only a rumor I'm personally hearing from GOP insiders I know and trust, but said sources that tell me this are generally pretty reliable. People online are saying this too and certain tabloids are hyping this up, but again- I trust the insider sources, and not the tabloids.

Apparently he could specifically  specifically announce this on Hannity in the next few days. I still wouldn't get too cocky to bet on it, but it honestly seems ever more likely by each passing day.

Announcing on Hannity rather than Tucker leads me to believe he'll run as a traditional muh economy muh socialism Republican. Ugh, hopefully someone better wins the primary.

He's a suburban Republican.

However, Enes Kanter went on Tucker recently and he is hardly a populist national conservative. You overestimate the political implications of someone appearing on a certain news anchor's show.

He should run in New Jersey, where he lives. He doesn't live in PA.

He should run against Bob Menendez in 2024, he could give the NJGOP their first Senate win since 1972.

I'd like to agree with you, but if Oz announces that run on Fox anytime soon.... I don't think he runs against corrupt Bob.

True...he should announce he is spending the next 2 years running against Menendez in NJ in 2024 and he will endorse some other Pennsylvania Republican.

Oz can beat Menendez 52%-48% in deep blue NJ and hold a Republican to 10 points in the presidential if Oz is on the 2024 slate in NJ...

Oz would flip Bergen, Middlesex and romp in South Jersey.

[Suburbia]

This is only a rumor I'm personally hearing from GOP insiders I know and trust, but said sources that tell me this are generally pretty reliable. People online are saying this too and certain tabloids are hyping this up, but again- I trust the insider sources, and not the tabloids.

Apparently he could specifically  specifically announce this on Hannity in the next few days. I still wouldn't get too cocky to bet on it, but it honestly seems ever more likely by each passing day.

Announcing on Hannity rather than Tucker leads me to believe he'll run as a traditional muh economy muh socialism Republican. Ugh, hopefully someone better wins the primary.

He's a suburban Republican.

However, Enes Kanter went on Tucker recently and he is hardly a populist national conservative. You overestimate the political implications of someone appearing on a certain news anchor's show.

He should run in New Jersey, where he lives. He doesn't live in PA.

He should run against Bob Menendez in 2024, he could give the NJGOP their first Senate win since 1972.

I'd like to agree with you, but if Oz announces that run on Fox anytime soon.... I don't think he runs against corrupt Bob.

True...he should announce he is spending the next 2 years running against Menendez in NJ in 2024 and he will endorse some other Pennsylvania Republican.

Oz can beat Menendez 52%-48% in deep blue NJ and hold a Republican to 10 points in the presidential if Oz is on the 2024 slate in NJ...

Oz would flip Bergen, Middlesex and romp in South Jersey.

In no universe does Oz flip Bergen County or even come close to winning.

Bergen can flip Republican under the right circumstances. Murphy barely won the county this year against Ciattarelli in 2021.

Christie Whitman and Bob Franks are the last Republicans to carry Bergen in a Senate election.

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You are going to see more celebrities and athletes run for office. They have political views like the rest of us, they pay income taxes like the rest of us, they vote, so why can't they have a say, as long as they know what they are talking about.

Lawyers and politicians have been running for so long and a lot of people feel they have not gained anything from them being in office.

Oz could beat Fetterman and peel off Black voters, a lot of Black people watch his show and if Fetterman's scandal with the gun and the Black jogger emerges again, Fetterman could be in a lot of problems.

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Oz could beat Fetterman and peel off Black voters, a lot of Black people watch his show and if Fetterman's scandal with the gun and the Black jogger emerges again, Fetterman could be in a lot of problems.

For the love of all that is holy, stop making everything about race.

Race is a big deal in this country. Deal with it or get lost.

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I've heard people say that the crucial Philadelphia suburbs, where most white suburban women live, would rather elect Oz than Fetterman, because Fetterman looks "too dirty, WWC, scary"

Oz will probably flip places like MontCo and Delaware Counties...

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I've heard people say that the crucial Philadelphia suburbs, where most white suburban women live, would rather elect Oz than Fetterman, because Fetterman looks "too dirty, WWC, scary"

Oz will probably flip places like MontCo and Delaware Counties...

Who said this. What people are you talking about. What are their names.

Please stop lying to stoke division, you weirdo.

Suburban white women on Philly radio streams, etc.

Fetterman has the WWC look, but he should get some hair to appeal to the Main Line women.

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Oz will probably flip places like MontCo and Delaware Counties...

If Oz is winning both Montgomery and Delaware Counties, either his opponent was revealed to be a Pedo, or this national environment isn't too far off from 1932/1894 levels of a landslide.

Oz has to make inroads there....in the suburbs of Philly and Pittsburgh

[Suburbia]

If Barnette wins, it is possible, she can win in November.

Oz is a good political fit for New Jersey, where he belongs. Not everyone can pull a Hillary Clinton 2000, who won because she was a better candidate than Lazio.

Oz's political moderatism is good for the NJGOP....against Menendez in 2024 in a year where Trump will be on the ballot and he would hold Menendez down in Middlesex/Union/Camden counties.....

Barnette could be the first Black senator from PA---either her or Kenyatta.

Historic.

John Fetterman cannot be cocky either. He has to earn votes. Barnette can use the Fetterman jogger incident against him.

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It’s not hard to see why Republican voters in Pennsylvania are connecting with Barnette. There is something about this ad which strikes a nerve, particularly among the evangelical crowd. Compare that to the Dr. Oz ad which is very obvious pandering that the 2A crowd won’t buy as easily. People can see through Oz and it’s clear conservatives are looking for a more authentic candidate. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Barnette won, even with Trumps anti-endorsement and that of other Republican Party leaders. 

The sad thing about her is that she has a nice story and a nice family. She looks like the future of America. I can see her winning. Sad thing is that the Black community won't embrace her. You think Joy Reid or a Sheryl Lee Ralph or a Tiffany Cross or a Roland Martin will embrace her? She ain't Black, she's a Uncle Tom/Aunt Tomisana, Aunt Jemima, etc.

[Suburbia]

This election is Pure Tossup.

Anyone can win.

Fetterman can go down with the black jogger thing, and Barnette with her family can use this against him....

So Democrats should look at Lamb as an alternative....

[Suburbia]

I hope Fetterman is okay.

Fetterman is the epitome of the white working class commoner. They get strokes because of punishing labor. This is why a lot of parents force their children to college, because they don't want them to get sick.

Think of people like Chris Christie, etc. Affluent suburbanites.

He is a working class hero, but can he win the working class like Casey has?

[Suburbia]

I think he should drop out.

I endorse Lamb. He is young, but he is a Connor.

Kenyatta is okay as well.

1. Lamb
2. Kenyatta
3. Oz
4. Barnette

Are the ones who will win this election

[Suburbia]

A week out, and Oz has still been silent publicly. No public concession message, no post to social, no nothing. He's just as terrible as expected.

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he just completely disappears from public life like Katie McGinty did. His reputation is in tatters, his political career is dead, and he's not going to get his TV show back. Maybe he'll get his own segment on Fox News?

Oz should have waited until 2024 to run against the odious Menendez. Oz is a Muslim, NJGOP are more palatable to suburban Arab Americans.......a lot of Arabs live in places like Bergen, etc. where they have good incomes.

Oz is a fool. Should have ran against Menendez in 2024 in NJ----he could have been the first Republican since Clifford Case to win...what a fool.

[Suburbia]

Do you think Oz's Islam religion had something to do with his loss?

Pennsylvania is more whiter than NJ and he is a better fit for NJ, as a lot of Middle Eastern Americans live in nice suburbs in NJ, make a lot of money and still vote Republican after the past 20+years.

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Probably too busy deciding which residence to return to. Or looking for Wegners.

Should have stayed put in NJ, either to run against Menendez or running for governor in 2025. He would have been a better candidate than Ciattarelli....

Stupid guy.

Oz could have won something in NJ....stupid.

[Suburbia]

I'm still numb. Fetterman had a stroke and still won. I don't get it. Oz is stupid.

[Suburbia]

Any particular reason we’re rehashing Fetterman’s stroke months after the election? Did something else happen or is this just nostalgia?

Because he is not healthy.

He should not be on the Democratic ticket in 2024 or 2028 or 2032.

It's sad.

Fetterman's stroke shows that working class people have hard lives and universal health care should be a reality.

Also, working class people should eat better and exercise.

[Suburbia]

Any particular reason we’re rehashing Fetterman’s stroke months after the election? Did something else happen or is this just nostalgia?

Because he is not healthy.

He should not be on the Democratic ticket in 2024 or 2028 or 2032.

It's sad.

Fetterman's stroke shows that working class people have hard lives and universal health care should be a reality.

Also, working class people should eat better and exercise.

This is also a social justice issue. How do you go to a gym on a $15/hr salary? What kind of food can you afford? What kind of food is accessible to wherever you can afford rent?

It's weird that ppl obsess over his health tho when multiple outlets have been insinuating that Dianne Feinstein has alzheimers since 2017. We just let California get represented for a whole term by a woman who doesn't always know who she is speaking to or what's going on. Prolly nobody cares cuz she's not a threat to our precious capitalism

You can do it. Save your money. Don't buy Hulu or Netflix or all these TV option stuff.

A lot of union men like Fetterman's image work out in the gym, etc.

It's sad. Fetterman has a working class vibe that Democrats need. But they could appoint Scranton's Marty Flynn, who has a lot of swag, good looks and he can appeal to the Casey-Biden-Fetterman white union man wing....without losing the base

However, him shooting a black man in 2014 (like Fetterman profiled a black jogger in 2013) will get a lot of eyebrows from Gov. Shapiro, who does not want to anger Black voters.....who barely turned out in Philly/Pittsburgh....

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/blogs/harrisburg_politics/Two-lawmakers-involved-in-shoot-out-with-robbers-near-Capitol.html