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Question: If the 2020 Democratic nominee is white male, who is most likely?
#1
Andrew Cuomo
 
#2
John Hickenlooper
 
#3
Steve Bullock
 
#4
Terry McAuliffe
 
#5
Roy Cooper
 
#6
John Bel Edwards
 
#7
Joe Biden
 
#8
Bernard Sanders
 
#9
Martin O'Malley
 
#10
John Delaney (LOL)
 
#11
Other
 
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Mr. Morden
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« on: August 19, 2017, 03:41:12 PM »

The Dem nominee is very unlikely to be a white male though.  Certainly less than 50%, maybe less than 20%, or even less than 10%.

Strongly disagree here.  Less than 10%?  That's crazy talk.  I'd say it's around 50%.  If I knew for a fact that the nominee would be one of the people in the "top 10" or so most likely, then yes, more likely than not to be a woman or minority (or both), since that list skews minority and female, including, e.g., Warren, Harris, Booker, Gillibrand, and probably Klobuchar.  Those folks are all more likely to win the nomination than, say, Andrew Cuomo.  However, the chances of it being someone outside the top 10 have got to be greater than 20%, and most of the potential "surprise" nominees are white males.

And yes, the most likely white male nominees are Biden and Sanders.  I agree that they're not the most likely to run, but in the scenarios where they do run, they have very strong chances of winning the nomination.  Probably something like 25% or more chance that the nominee is one of those two.
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Mr. Morden
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2017, 04:06:20 PM »

Personally, I would love to see Bullock, but according to our resident MT commenter MT Treasurer, he is not that moderate and he is not that popular and he would not be such a good candidate.

I'm not really on the Bullock train myself, but one note of potential disagreement here...

IMHO, not being that moderate actually makes him *more* likely to be the nominee than if he were a bona fide moderate.  John Edwards 2008 had the right idea, I think (I mean in terms of campaign strategy, not in terms of personal life Tongue ): The default assumption from voters in a Democratic presidential primary is that a white male with a Southern accent is going to be the "moderate" option in the field, and there just aren't enough Dem. primary voters that that appeals to to make that base the sum total of your voting constituency.  So you've got to branch out and move left on policy.

Same logic applies to Bullock, being the white male governor of Montana.  Default assumption from voters will be that he's "moderate", but if he's pigeonholed as the moderate in the field, then he has no chance of being nominated.  So he'd have to expand his base beyond that.

Now, it probably won't work, as it didn't work for Edwards either, and he's a longshot to be the nominee, but in both the Bullock and Edwards cases, it makes a heck of a lot more sense than running as the next Joe Manchin.
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