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« on: October 23, 2011, 10:26:00 AM »

disappointing to see the Forum's limited non-liberal left quietly celebrate a lynching.
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 05:06:40 PM »

disappointing to see the Forum's limited non-liberal left quietly celebrate a lynching.

What would you have done with Qaddafi?

me, an upper-middle class white college kid from Long Island?
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2011, 05:24:22 PM »

I'm not reacting to what the rebels did, as that was inevitable.  I'm reacting to the reactions of others here in the West, many of them white, some as well-off as I am, and so on.  the white liberals, like BRTD with his signature and inane "we got them!" mantra, we can't expect much better of them.  but left non-liberals like you, Al, etc. I hold to a different standard.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2011, 09:13:36 PM »

Also, I don't really see how it would be possible to think that an action was okay to be performed by Lybians, yet not okay to be approved of by those who sympathize with them in the West. That seems almost paternalistic, as far as I can see.

I didn't take a position on whether or not it was 'okay' (I even contemplated including this disclaimer in my previous post, but decided it was sufficiently implicit).
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2011, 09:42:32 PM »

It's never good to see that anyone died, but the real tragedy here wasn't his death; the real tragedy was his life.

That says it very well.

Really no different than bin Laden's death. I mean the circumstances were pretty much the same, except bin Laden was killed by an invading force instead of the countrymen of where he was.

And any trial of Gaddafi would've been kind of a joke trial anyway with the outcome never in doubt. Not that a fair trial would have any chance of acquitting him anyway making the whole thing kind of moot, think of the trial of Saddam.

ah, there's a bit of a jump from paragraph one to two.  you are correct, a Qaddafi trial would have been a foregone conclusion.  as was Saddam: such is why the US/West were willing to allow Qaddafi to turn himself over.  but remember, this was NOT the case with bin Laden. when the US was offered on the eve of the invasion of Afghanistan to see bin Laden handed over to a neutral party for trial, the offer was refused.  because that trial would have not been a foregone conclusion.  such is why he was assassinated despite being defenseless at the point of capture, and further such is why there is a distinction to be drawn between UBL and Qaddafi.
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