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« on: February 14, 2014, 01:01:09 AM »

I hadn't seen this come up.


It creates a system that keeps any wasteful spending in check.

Most government waste isn't passed by the Legislature. It commonly occurs in the implementation phase of a legislation's life. An agency needs to train their employees to enact the legislation and they get a little frivolous. The GAO in the real world exists to curb frivolous spending. It's not going to be a budgetary game-changer, but it's smart policy and build public confidence in government.
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2014, 01:06:29 AM »

Getting the executive branch to perform regular audits, because that power lies with the executive branch(in WV at least), will give us a nice list of spending to cut when we write a budget. It gives us a basic level of spending reduction before every budget.
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2014, 01:10:57 AM »

We can't very well compel the Governor to do audits, if it's similar to my real life state laws, so a resolution is the best way to say, "This is what the Legislature wants."
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2014, 01:18:34 AM »

We can't very well compel the Governor to do audits, if it's similar to my real life state laws, so a resolution is the best way to say, "This is what the Legislature wants."

We can require that the Mideast Government perform audits; I would argue that falls within our legislative power.  If you disagree, we could always amend the Constitution.  But I see no point to pass a fluff resolution.

While I was never supportive of the Questioning the Power Act, it was never struck down as unconstitutional and that surely had more potential erosion into "Executive Power" than this bill.

If you think we're able to force audits, I'll rewrite this into a legitimate bill.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2014, 01:23:43 AM »

We can't very well compel the Governor to do audits, if it's similar to my real life state laws, so a resolution is the best way to say, "This is what the Legislature wants."

We can require that the Mideast Government perform audits; I would argue that falls within our legislative power.  If you disagree, we could always amend the Constitution.  But I see no point to pass a fluff resolution.

While I was never supportive of the Questioning the Power Act, it was never struck down as unconstitutional and that surely had more potential erosion into "Executive Power" than this bill.

If you think we're able to force audits, I'll rewrite this into a legitimate bill.

I think it would be constitutional; however, I'd like to see a GM analysis to see if it would actually save any money.

Okay, I'll redraft it. And, even if it breaks even, it's good policy. Jon Huntsman always talks about the "trust deficit" people have with government, this helps resolve that.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2014, 01:53:53 AM »

We can't very well compel the Governor to do audits, if it's similar to my real life state laws, so a resolution is the best way to say, "This is what the Legislature wants."

We can require that the Mideast Government perform audits; I would argue that falls within our legislative power.  If you disagree, we could always amend the Constitution.  But I see no point to pass a fluff resolution.

While I was never supportive of the Questioning the Power Act, it was never struck down as unconstitutional and that surely had more potential erosion into "Executive Power" than this bill.

If you think we're able to force audits, I'll rewrite this into a legitimate bill.

I think it would be constitutional; however, I'd like to see a GM analysis to see if it would actually save any money.

Okay, I'll redraft it. And, even if it breaks even, it's good policy. Jon Huntsman always talks about the "trust deficit" people have with government, this helps resolve that.

And if it doesn't break even?

Scrap it.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2014, 01:40:34 AM »

I see no need for this at the present time, to be honest.

It's not about "at the present time", it's about long-term accountability.
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2014, 06:51:34 AM »

I see no need for this at the present time, to be honest.

It's not about "at the present time", it's about long-term accountability.

But it clearly mandates an immediate audit. I'm all for responsible budget policies, but I think the Mideast is in pretty good shape.

We don't know about implementation spending, at the moment. It worth setting a precedent and just checking everything out. We don't know the current state of wasteful spending. Good be none whatsoever or it could be rampant. This body does not know.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2014, 10:07:04 PM »

Aye.

I understand their concerns, completely legitimate and agree with most of it. I would just like to have it on the books for a sort of precedent.
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