Is infant baptism as valid as believer's baptism?

[jojoju1998]

Infant Baptism has less to do with " salvation " per se, and more of a broader picture of the " People of God." The New Covenant. Being part of the Church. And this isn't just a strictly Catholic View. I think the Presbyterians and Lutherans have similar beliefs.



The Believer's Baptism stuff is more Baptist/Evangelical but that has been the dominant form of American conservative christianity in the last 100 years.

[jojoju1998]

Infant baptism defies common sense

Infant Baptism does make sense if you look at it in terms of Covenant Theology, rather than in terms of salvation as defined  in the Americanist Evangelical world.

https://knowingscripture.com/articles/why-we-should-baptize-babies-the-case-for-covenantal-infant-baptism

[jojoju1998]

No, while baptism doesn't confer Salvation and isn't required for it, Jesus still did command us to be baptized as an external representation of an inward transformation.  That can't apply to an infant, so infant "baptism" isn't truly baptism, but just a baby getting wet.

Also, there's no Biblical precedent for sprinkling in a baptism.  A baptism should be a full immersion.

Dr. Jordan B. Cooper does a great job describing why he finds the Baptist view on this misguided, and I encourage you to check it out.  There’s very clear evidence the early Church - which still had men who had known the apostles - was liturgical and baptized infants.  This whole “true Christianity was lost for a bit until WE figured it out” attitude that Baptists have on this is very … Mormon-esque.  There’s a reason ZERO of the Protestant Reformers disagreed with infant baptism.

Yes. The Lutherans, Classical Presbyterians, and the Anglicans still practice infant baptism.