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Question: Is Soros really helping Dems by supporting social justice DAs?
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Author Topic: Is Soros really helping Dems by supporting social justice DAs?  (Read 935 times)
jojoju1998
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« on: March 21, 2023, 09:36:15 AM »

Ahh, the Washington Examiner. Such a reliable source of information.
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jojoju1998
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2023, 09:42:36 AM »

The red avatar standard of attacking the source rather than addressing the substance of the article is so pathetic. This place is basically indistinguishable from Twitter at this point.
and they don't even try to find the story on a site they'd believe.


AND they have no problem posting articles from biased sources in their direction.

It's almost like they know this place is left leaning, but if you start a thread with that as the subject, half the posters will say "nah hah, it can't be.  Every time I make a false statement about, say, guns, other posters will call me on my bull sh**t.  Can't be a left leaning site."

For your information, I don't read any US News at all.



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jojoju1998
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2023, 09:49:20 AM »

The red avatar standard of attacking the source rather than addressing the substance of the article is so pathetic. This place is basically indistinguishable from Twitter at this point.
and they don't even try to find the story on a site they'd believe.


AND they have no problem posting articles from biased sources in their direction.

It's almost like they know this place is left leaning, but if you start a thread with that as the subject, half the posters will say "nah hah, it can't be.  Every time I make a false statement about, say, guns, other posters will call me on my bull sh**t.  Can't be a left leaning site."
Or very few have an appetite to engage in a “serious discussion” about how “our nations laws are being destroyed thanks to a Jewish billionaire working in the shadows”
and right on cue, the accusations of racism.  Is it possible to criticize Soros without being accused of racism?  If you think pushing social justice DAs (which there is plenty of evidence that he does) is good, you can defend it if you want.  We've certainly had discussions along those lines in the past, and managed to do so without invoking anti-Semitism.

We can do it in this thread too, if the children can get past the biased link in the OP.


But why single out Soros ? Why not criticize ALL billionaires for influencing our political system ? For example, remember the Koch Brothers ? They are still around folks.


https://time.com/5121930/koch-brothers-fall-elections/

They spent almost a billion dollars in past elections. No one seems to mention them. But oh my god, George Soros is evil.
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jojoju1998
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2023, 09:54:54 AM »

You don't believe Soros is actively supporting social justice DAs?

Oh I believe so.


Just as I believe billionaires influence all elections, and candidates. The Koch Brothers are the most famous example of them all. Or the NRA. Or any major company/businessman.

But why should we single out George Soros ? 
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jojoju1998
1970vu
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2023, 10:09:59 AM »

you guys are really doubling down on the hijack.  We've got a "well, most of the time" and a whataboutery back to back. Lets look at the check list.
  • Whataboutery-check
  • generic insults
  • accusations of racism-check
  • well, most of the time...-check
  • I'm not a fan of the source-check
  • mock political identity
  • nit pick irrelevant facts
I could go on, but I don't want to give you anymore ideas.  Plus some of you have these on a sticky on the side of your monitor.

You misunderstand me.

I don't like George Soros influencing our elections. Just as I don't like all billionaires influencing our elections. Period. End of story.


But to single out Soros, in my view, opens up a can of worms. That I hope we avoid.

Because with all due honesty; you're not worried about billionaires influencing elections to change public policy.

It's all about the social justice part of it. The wokeness of it. The Globalist stuff. Come on man.

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jojoju1998
1970vu
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,792
United States


« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2023, 10:15:33 AM »

The red avatar standard of attacking the source rather than addressing the substance of the article is so pathetic. This place is basically indistinguishable from Twitter at this point.
and they don't even try to find the story on a site they'd believe.


AND they have no problem posting articles from biased sources in their direction.

It's almost like they know this place is left leaning, but if you start a thread with that as the subject, half the posters will say "nah hah, it can't be.  Every time I make a false statement about, say, guns, other posters will call me on my bull sh**t.  Can't be a left leaning site."
Or very few have an appetite to engage in a “serious discussion” about how “our nations laws are being destroyed thanks to a Jewish billionaire working in the shadows”
and right on cue, the accusations of racism.  Is it possible to criticize Soros without being accused of racism?  If you think pushing social justice DAs (which there is plenty of evidence that he does) is good, you can defend it if you want.  We've certainly had discussions along those lines in the past, and managed to do so without invoking anti-Semitism.

We can do it in this thread too, if the children can get past the biased link in the OP.


But why single out Soros ? Why not criticize ALL billionaires for influencing our political system ? For example, remember the Koch Brothers ? They are still around folks.


https://time.com/5121930/koch-brothers-fall-elections/

They spent almost a billion dollars in past elections. No one seems to mention them. But oh my god, George Soros is evil.

From OpenSecrets, top ten donors in 2022:

1   George Soros $126,752,713
2   Richard & Elizabeth Uihlein   $83,446,015
3   Kenneth C. Griffin $71,050,000
4   Jeffrey S & Janine Yass $54,741,400
5   Timothy Mellon $40,500,000
6   Sam Bankman-Fried $38,837,000
7   Stephen A. Schwarzman $35,000,0588
8   Peter Thiel $32,750,000
9   Fred Eychaner $32,100,000
10   Lawrence Ellison $31,007,943


You're missing my point ! I'm not trying to do a whatbaoutism here.

Okay, George Soros donated a lot. So did as you can see, all these other rich businesspeople. And that's bad period. We should not have billionaires funding our elections period, end of story.

But to.... have a bogeyman mentality against a single businessman is well....awkward, if I can use that word ?
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jojoju1998
1970vu
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,792
United States


« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2023, 10:17:42 AM »

My whole point is : What is so particularly dangerous about George Soros, that we have to single him out as the bogeyman ? When he's just like every other billionaire/businessman/ Company ?
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jojoju1998
1970vu
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,792
United States


« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2023, 10:26:48 AM »

The red avatar standard of attacking the source rather than addressing the substance of the article is so pathetic. This place is basically indistinguishable from Twitter at this point.
and they don't even try to find the story on a site they'd believe.


AND they have no problem posting articles from biased sources in their direction.

It's almost like they know this place is left leaning, but if you start a thread with that as the subject, half the posters will say "nah hah, it can't be.  Every time I make a false statement about, say, guns, other posters will call me on my bull sh**t.  Can't be a left leaning site."
Or very few have an appetite to engage in a “serious discussion” about how “our nations laws are being destroyed thanks to a Jewish billionaire working in the shadows”
and right on cue, the accusations of racism.  Is it possible to criticize Soros without being accused of racism?  If you think pushing social justice DAs (which there is plenty of evidence that he does) is good, you can defend it if you want.  We've certainly had discussions along those lines in the past, and managed to do so without invoking anti-Semitism.

We can do it in this thread too, if the children can get past the biased link in the OP.


But why single out Soros ? Why not criticize ALL billionaires for influencing our political system ? For example, remember the Koch Brothers ? They are still around folks.


https://time.com/5121930/koch-brothers-fall-elections/

They spent almost a billion dollars in past elections. No one seems to mention them. But oh my god, George Soros is evil.

From OpenSecrets, top ten donors in 2022:

1   George Soros $126,752,713
2   Richard & Elizabeth Uihlein   $83,446,015
3   Kenneth C. Griffin $71,050,000
4   Jeffrey S & Janine Yass $54,741,400
5   Timothy Mellon $40,500,000
6   Sam Bankman-Fried $38,837,000
7   Stephen A. Schwarzman $35,000,0588
8   Peter Thiel $32,750,000
9   Fred Eychaner $32,100,000
10   Lawrence Ellison $31,007,943


You're missing my point ! I'm not trying to do a whatbaoutism here.

Okay, George Soros donated a lot. So did as you can see, all these other rich businesspeople. And that's bad period. We should not have billionaires funding our elections period, end of story.

But to.... have a bogeyman mentality against a single businessman is well....awkward, if I can use that word ?
This is exactly the point. People can criticize literally the largest donor. #1 in anything is always the largest target of criticism.

A lot of people don’t like the Kochs either, myself included. But evoking Soros’s name doesn’t make somebody automatically anti-semitic or whatever.

Well read into why OP is critical of George Soros's donations.

It's not because he believes Billionaires influencing our elections is bad in of itself.

It's because Soros donates to his causes, which OP finds problematic.

And these causes are inherently " Woke ". Or " Liberal". " Globalist ".
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