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  is flying a confederate flag a "redneck pride" thing or just being "racist"? (search mode)
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Author Topic: is flying a confederate flag a "redneck pride" thing or just being "racist"?  (Read 4005 times)
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« on: January 14, 2021, 03:41:22 PM »

Not the first time I've quoted this post from a very liberal, non-redneck poster:

If I can build a bridge between you and West Virginian rednecks, though I think flying one is pretty moronic and not very thoughtful, I don't think the Confederate flag is a straight-up hate symbol.

The redneck students that I teach mostly aren't racist and actually occasionally have some black friends, they just have this at least partially misguided idea that 1) the South is awesome and they are so lucky to be there and 2) thoughtlessly don't connect the flag with slavery or a moronic, misguided rebellion for the purpose of oppressing black people and instead see it as like a regional flag.

So it really depends. It can be flown as a symbol of regional, or as you say, "redneck" pride, or it can also be flown as a hate symbol, just as the flag of the United States can be flown as a symbol of national pride, or as a symbol of hate, in the hands of extremist militia groups or the rioters at the Capitol.

The main difference is that the Confederate Battle Flag is emotionally hurtful to many people in the US, while the US flag is merely emotionally hurtful to people burying their relatives in Iraq.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2021, 09:02:11 PM »

Probably my favorite anecdote from the Confederate flag debate was a conversation I had with an elderly gentleman with a thick Southern accent dressed in overalls and a red t-shirt, who said of the Confederacy, "I think they're traitors, and the people who fly that flag today are traitors and terrorists."

This is true, but Americans complaining about rebel traitors is just a bit much.



Wrong flag.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2021, 09:40:51 AM »

Reminder that the modern display of the Confederate flag was a response to the Civil Rights movement in the 50s/60s.

Like, South Carolina began flying the flag at the state capitol in 1962, nearly 100 years after the Civil War.

It is a symbol of racism, unquestionably.

Popular culture (produced, financed, and promoted by Northerners) also helped popularized it as a Southern/redneck symbol. So there really are two branches of modern usage that sometimes overlap.
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