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TTS1996
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« on: August 08, 2014, 01:40:07 PM »

Can you all just shut up on this thread and realise that Fitzgerald is going to cakewalk this election, and if he doesn't, well, it will be oh-so-narrow and only because of Kasich's lies about the virtuous wonderful FitzGeRaLd not being as squeaky clean as the Ohio Democrats claim. Which FitzGeRaLd is. Squeaky clean, that is.

If anyone dares to disagree, I have at least six more paragraphs in me (per post) with which to pummel anyone who DisaGrees with the obvious fact of FitzGeRaLd's cakewalk to victory into submission.

Kneel before the revealed truth, and put those polls aside. Everyone knows polls are always wrong (especially in a nation with such an unsophisticated rough polling operation such as the USA)
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TTS1996
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2014, 10:50:08 AM »

Can someone explain to me what makes this scandal so devastating to Fitzgerald? I mean, I never thought he would win in the first place, but this always seemed like a whole bunch of nothing to me.
Well, a lot of voters, mainly women, are now turning against FitzGerald because they think and are appalled that Ed would cheat on his wife; even though those women have little evidence to show for it. That and licensegate, lack of judgment, lack of transparency, and still some sentiments about his choice of Eric Kearney. If you compare the last 2 OH-Dem PPP internals, Fitzy had a +1 lead among women in July, and now Kasich has the women vote by 7. It really should be nothing, but the ORP saw a golden opportunity to make FitzGerald's first major statewide ID known through an alleged affair which distracted everyone from the campaign itself.

Now onto something shocking you guys are about to hear from me. Not only the polls, but the personal experience of campaigning just tells me that we can't beat Kasich. There are Democratic women in my area who are saying they won't vote for FitzGerald now, but they won't cast a vote for Kasich, either. Basically, a + for Rios and higher dropoffs that would have otherwise went to Fitzy. It's at least relieving from the aspect that they're willing to care about their own self-interests and still reject Kasich considering a vote for Kasich is a vote for de-funding Planned Parenthood, shutting down abortion clinics, and a 6-week abortion ban to come. The state Democratic Party is giving up on FitzGerald and even FitzGerald's giving up on FitzGerald. He's been giving a lot of his campaign contributions to a voter turnout initiative for more young and minority voters to turnout to vote this November; thus helping down-ballot. I'm still going to campaign for FitzGerald and I'm optimistic that he'll return to run for an office in 2018, but for now, this is not winnable. On the plus side, this means we're favored to control redistricting in 2021 seeing as how another term of Kasich and Ohio GOP control will not go well for their approval numbers in the long run.

We're slightly favored in Treasurer though and we also have a pretty good chance at knocking off Husted. Mandel and Husted are incredibly unpopular and to Husted's dismay, this race has become one of the most nationalized races in Ohio this year with tons of negative publicity for Husted over the state's modern-day Jim Crow laws. If he survives, it will only be b/c Husted has a large cash advantage and Turner is too polarizing of a politician to win statewide in a midterm, but it will be very, very close.
It's highly appropriate your avatar is D-UK because your self-righteous attitude would've fit in just right with the Yes to AV campaigners in the 2011 referendum, and with the Yes to Independence campaigners in Scotland right now.

You've no appreciation that your side might be wrong, that the voice of the people might be against you; in your own head, FitzGeRaLd is the perfect man for the job, everything Kasich has done the last four years is the work of the devil, and the only reason your side is losing is because your opponents are Machiavellian devils (your side, naturally, would never stoop so low, as they have the angels on their side instead) and the press was bought.

Naturally, left to themselves, oi polloi would give you a 98% victory, with only 'the 1%' backing the other side, but their tiny plebeian minds have been twisted by Tory/Republican gold, and nothing else.

I should like to say 'eat (Jim) crow' but the left never does that; it blames external factors or money, and never accepts it's wrong.
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