During which period was Atlasia more fun?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I still don't understand what's going on or what has changed besides these little side movements, but maybe I'm missing something here.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

What kind of changes? Like a "war"? You say structural changes aside from consolidation or restructuring the government to make it more fun, but what does that mean? Will a civil war and race riots make more people want to play the game?

I guess the kids had fun during the chaos so they could act out, but I wasn't particularly interested in it.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Also, I'm not trying to be antagonistic at all. I'm trying to understand what's going on..

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

So just make Atlasia chaos continuously?

I mean, we've had secessionist movements in the past, which is how the RPP was formed actually, but having the game in a constant state of chaos would be exhausting in my opinion. The GM needs to be the one to make up story lines. It would be a mess if we just allowed anyone to willy nilly make up story lines and crises I would think.

Has it really made Atlasia more fun? Is anyone having more fun? I don't think comparing it to the disastrous former President is a good measure of things since that administration shut down newspapers and fired GMs that did not cater to its needs. I don't think anyone but the most partisan Labor members would claim that period was a success.

Maybe its just me, but I'm not really entertained by people pretending to be young Vladimir Lenon's, civil war revolutionists,  or having riots in the streets. Maybe I'm just too old now to enjoy it, because like I said, I once led the Dirty South's secession in early 2008 and thought it was entertaining. Now I'm just an entrenched guy I guess.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

So just make Atlasia chaos continuously?

I mean, we've had secessionist movements in the past, which is how the RPP was formed actually, but having the game in a constant state of chaos would be exhausting in my opinion. The GM needs to be the one to make up story lines. It would be a mess if we just allowed anyone to willy nilly make up story lines and crises I would think.

Has it really made Atlasia more fun? Is anyone having more fun? I don't think comparing it to the disastrous former President is a good measure of things since that administration shut down newspapers and fired GMs that did not cater to its needs. I don't think anyone but the most partisan Labor members would claim that period was a success.

Maybe its just me, but I'm not really entertained by people pretending to be young Vladimir Lenon's, civil war revolutionists,  or having riots in the streets. Maybe I'm just too old now to enjoy it, because like I said, I once led the Dirty South's secession in early 2008 and thought it was entertaining. Now I'm just an entrenched guy I guess.

     That secession was organized. It had a philosophical basis. We were going to hold a vote to approve it, FFS. We changed Atlasia on a level that none since then have managed.

     Now I don't pay too much attention, but from what I have seen the secessions these days seem to be much more fly-by-night lets-do-something-just-to-do-it impulsiveness. I am not opposed to secession or generally doing things to make the game interesting, but I feel like folks these days aren't trying like we did. There's no expectation of success there.

You're right, that's my point. The new movements are just child's play in comparison. There's no structure, really no one banding together, it's just one person trying to start something and make a name for themselves or trying to be "different."

Our movement had a purpose back in 2008. We had a set list of things we wanted to see and we held a formal vote. We didn't just post a thread with demands and run around pretending to be a mock government and give each other nicknames.

But Atlasia in 2008 was lightyears beyond what it is today, so I guess it's unfair to compare the two periods.