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« Reply #125 on: June 26, 2013, 03:18:52 PM »
« edited: June 26, 2013, 03:23:28 PM by VP Duke »

Bushie still doesn't seem to understand he will never be able to be with these kids without marrying someone. The best he will ever be able to do is visit them at the orphanage and continue to send them money every month. Like JJ, they deserve parents that can provide for them, not to be used to fulfill some parenting fantasy, just like it's wrong to use JJ to fulfill his desires to have a puppy without actually giving it a good home.

I am not trying to rain on his parade. That is reality.
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« Reply #126 on: June 27, 2013, 12:06:58 AM »
« Edited: June 27, 2013, 12:11:58 AM by VP Duke »

I thought we established that single MALES couldn't adopt children? Last I check, bushie, you weren't a German mother. Wink

Yes, I was right. It says single females may adopt under special circumstances, but single males may not adopt. We had this conversation a year ago. Let's not waste time arguing it again. Nothing was thrown on its head. The law is clear.

http://adopt.com/kenya/index.html
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« Reply #127 on: June 27, 2013, 12:18:40 AM »
« Edited: June 27, 2013, 12:20:57 AM by VP Duke »

It's almost like he's simply put up a wall where he refuses to listen any of the facts when it comes to these kids. He can't adopt them without a wife, and he must be married for 3 years. Period. End of story.
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« Reply #128 on: June 27, 2013, 12:35:45 AM »

The whole situation is absurd and also illustrates just how lonely Bushie is. I mean, it's as clear as day that he will never be able to adopt these kids, yet he refuses to face reality.

Let's say that, for a second, single males could adopt. Do you honestly think that even if granny fronted him the $15,000 that they would deem fit to adopt? With no job, a poor work history, no income to speak of?
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« Reply #129 on: June 27, 2013, 12:40:13 AM »

It's almost like he's simply put up a wall where he refuses to listen any of the facts when it comes to these kids. He can't adopt them without a wife, and he must be married for 3 years. Period. End of story.

He has to be married for 3 years before he can adopt there?  Hmmm....how old are these kids again?  If he doesn't get married by the time they turn 15, then he can't adopt them before they're legally adults anyway.


Married at least 3 years: http://adoption.state.gov/country_information/country_specific_info.php?country-select=kenya

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« Reply #130 on: June 27, 2013, 08:36:34 AM »


No, no it isn't. Bushie simply refuses to believe the law, which is very clearly written. The German mother he met was allowed to adopt because the court found she was capable of caring for them - since the law, you know, says single women are evaluated on a case by case basis. Single women.

I, of course, expect Bushie to come back and tell me I'm wrong and accuse me of trying to ruin his vacation, but whatever. It is what it is.
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« Reply #131 on: June 27, 2013, 06:20:36 PM »

The best course of action if he wanted to do something for impoverished Kenyan children:

1. Get the CAD
2. Get some work experience in the US (1 year minimum)
3. Move to Kenya and secure a job (shouldn't be impossible in a booming economy)
4. Marry a Kenyan single mother - plenty of widows/abandoned women with kids around.

Of course he may not like being a mealticket in such a direct way, but Kenya has plenty of devout Christian widows with children, so he should be able to meet a person where they a least had religion in common. http://mingle2.com/online-dating/zacatecas/nairobi-kenya/christian-dating

Just me fantasizing about a happy ending...

But yeah, Jeff's communication with God seems to be a problem. He uses those prayer sessions with the big man above to get an excuse for doing the easy thing. If you are a believer prayer is a powerful tool whether its used right or wrong. I think his church is letting him down not talking to him about this, but then again maybe someone does and he just ignores it.

This is the only post I'm responding to.  Those are exactly my plans.  Get the CAD certificate, secure an American job for 12-18 months in Oklahoma City, then secure a job in either Nairobi or Kisumu initially.  I would like to marry a Kenyan wife to make the adoption even possible to begin with.  I know the law and far be it from me to try to circumvent the laws.  As far as the fatherhood, I am going to visit their home Saturday. I asked about calling me their daddy and the Maisha Administrator here in Kenya, Paul, said it is important that they see you as father, because you are their only way to receive an education.  Without me, they would likely not see their 15th birthday.  That is straight from Paul's mouth who sets up and organizes sponsorships.  The grandmother is not in good shape and may not last much longer so the kids only source of support would be me.  They would stay with relatives or friends when she passes.

Ah, so the only one you'll trust is the guy who would be out a job if you didn't send him $70 a month. Makes sense. Very logical.

Well, he also believed last night that he could adopt the children because a single German mother said so, so of course it makes sense to believe the guy who's in charge of donations! What else would he say, they really don't need your money?

I just think it's extremely dishonest to tell someone they are these kids father when he knows that's BS. These super religious people are just the worst.
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« Reply #132 on: June 27, 2013, 06:29:37 PM »

This is an interesting thought... do all of the kids in the orphanage have specific sponsors?

If it's like any african thing, you sent money to them and they send you pictures and you can write to "them" whenever you want. Most of the money goes to keeping up the orphanage and yes, probably to their education, but I doubt ONLY Bushie's donations are set aside for those kids. I am sure the revenue is pooled and spent where they are needed.
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« Reply #133 on: June 27, 2013, 07:03:40 PM »

I can delete my post! I doubt he has seen it!
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« Reply #134 on: June 27, 2013, 08:47:58 PM »

I wish Bushie would come back to the US, find this poor puppy a real home and then start dating some crazy Oklahoman woman again. Then we could all have some laughs.

Right now this thread is just darkness.

I realize I'm harsh on him a lot, but seriously... this is depressing right now.  He's on a path that's going to ruin his life and could seriously scar some innocent children.

Yeah, I feel the same way. I feel bad when I criticize him, but it's clear he is deep into darkness right now with all of these grandiose delusions he is currently trying to convince himself are possible. There's a point where this story moves from entertaining to really heartbreaking, and it has reached that point now.

He needs to go home, focus on his life, find a woman and find some sort of happiness. These kids are not the key to it in any way. It will only lead to disappointment.
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« Reply #135 on: June 27, 2013, 09:03:55 PM »

I wish Bushie would come back to the US, find this poor puppy a real home and then start dating some crazy Oklahoman woman again. Then we could all have some laughs.

Right now this thread is just darkness.

I realize I'm harsh on him a lot, but seriously... this is depressing right now.  He's on a path that's going to ruin his life and could seriously scar some innocent children.

Yeah, I feel the same way. I feel bad when I criticize him, but it's clear he is deep into darkness right now with all of these grandiose delusions he is currently trying to convince himself are possible. There's a point where this story moves from entertaining to really heartbreaking, and it has reached that point now.

He needs to go home, focus on his life, find a woman and find some sort of happiness. These kids are not the key to it in any way. It will only lead to disappointment.

And his charity fan club isn't helping.  I'm sure most of them know little about his personal life and just see his statuses on Facebook so they cheer him on.  But if he's truly being honest about stuff like the orphanage director telling him that he should call himself these kids' "daddy", then they're taking advantage of his emotional weaknesses, and that's pretty damn disgusting.

Exactly. The director knows full and well he can't adopt the kids regardless of his disposition. He is merely trying to keep Bushie on the hook for his $70/month. I couldn't imagine, if they were being honest with him, that they would tell him they are indeed these kids "daddy." He could just be using the lowest form of salesmanship to keep that revenue stream going.

Of course, Bushie could be telling us what he wanted to hear, and he may have been told that he is "essentially their father because he is their only source of support" or something like that.
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« Reply #136 on: June 27, 2013, 09:23:34 PM »

Yeah, I don't understand how it works either. He said the grandmother cares for them, but he seems to be just buying his time until she dies, which is a bit weird and creepy, but whatever.

Maybe they go to the orphanage for food and schooling? But if that's the case, they are just a boys and girls club and not an orphanage. Yeah, it all doesn't make sense to me.
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« Reply #137 on: June 27, 2013, 09:35:30 PM »

Of course, Bushie could be telling us what he wanted to hear, and he may have been told that he is "essentially their father because he is their only source of support" or something like that.

And considering his embellishments before, I'm not quite confident enough in his story to pass judgment on the orphanage workers.  I'm guessing he's telling us the orphanage director said this so that we don't knock him for calling himself "daddy".

I have never heard of anyone with sponsor kids calling themselves "mommy and daddy" before Bushie started all of this nonsense last year. I can't imagine the director saying he is their daddy unless he really is playing on Bushie's vulnerabilities.
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« Reply #138 on: June 28, 2013, 07:19:15 AM »

Who locked it? Is this another defense mechanism by bushie?
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« Reply #139 on: June 28, 2013, 08:43:07 AM »

Well, if he has locked it, we will just have to move our discussion to this thread.

All Inks said was by definition he was not these kids father. It didn't seem that bad. Giving them $35 a month does not make him a father, and it's a bit selfish of him to expect for the kids to call him daddy in return, but then again, Bushie is one of the most selfish people I've ever come across.
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« Reply #140 on: June 28, 2013, 09:13:30 AM »

Worst of all, its not even him sending the money.

I'm glad Inks didn't add that part.  Inks wasn't wrong, but Bushie is touchy.  AndrewTX weighed in as well.....lol.

Bushie doesn't like his fantasies being called out...
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« Reply #141 on: June 28, 2013, 09:34:35 AM »

Worst of all, its not even him sending the money.

I'm glad Inks didn't add that part.  Inks wasn't wrong, but Bushie is touchy.  AndrewTX weighed in as well.....lol.

Bushie doesn't like his fantasies being called out...

Not on FB because his enabling friends will read it.

I don't think that will make any difference. They all seem to have adopted the narrative that he is, indeed, a father to these kids. It seemed like he had accepted he was simply a sponsor before he went back to Kenya, but of course, that all went out the window.

The Update will be back once he comes home. He can't stay away. It may take a few weeks for him to return to "reality" as he defines it, but he won't be gone forever.
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« Reply #142 on: June 28, 2013, 10:09:10 AM »

Jamespol often messages me to tell me I'm cute. Yep...
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« Reply #143 on: June 28, 2013, 01:43:43 PM »

Don't worry, boys, he will be back. We should have expected this to happen. He hasn't locked it in a few months. Wink
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« Reply #144 on: June 28, 2013, 01:50:32 PM »

Inks, I am not going to delete you off Facebook, but I kindly ask you to keep any logistical questions here.  Besides, the Maisha director on the ground said the children need to call me father.  He wouldn't exaggerate a situation for crowd pleasing.  He says things as they are.  You all need to admit that I know more about the inner workings of Maisha than any of you.  I have been with this organization for almost 2 years on two mission trips.  I don't know everything, but I know a heck of a lot more than anyone here.  Can we all agree to that?

I suppose our confusion stems from the notion that their grandmother raises them and no one else calls their sponsor kids their "children."

Yes, you have been on a mission trip there, that's great, but you have to remember the director is running a business. If you and others like you stop sending money every month, the place shuts down. He is not going to argue with someone he depends on for revenue. The customer is always right, Bushie. If you want them to call you daddy, by golly that man is going to tell you that for fear that you will stop sending in money every month.

I think I speak for all of us when I say we are just fearful that this is going to end badly. You can't adopt these kids and it's cruel you are having them call you their father. What if someone else comes along and wants to adopt them? Then they are confused. It will be at least 5 years before you can even consider adopting them (CAD + US Job + 3 years minimum of marriage), and that's a hell of a long time.

It's incredibly selfish to con these kids into thinking you are their father, and then when they grow up, they will be ripe for an identity crisis. Or worse, if a good family who can actually support them comes along, they will feel like they are being taken from their daddy.

What I want for those kids and JJ is to find a good home with people who can support them. You can't. That's not an insult. I can't either. It's just the truth.
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« Reply #145 on: June 29, 2013, 05:08:24 PM »

Rosé is what nicki minaj drinks! Bushie is on his way to being a rap star!

I can't stand the stuff. A bold red for me, thanks.
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« Reply #146 on: June 30, 2013, 05:45:40 PM »

What? You had to wait to watch the dog use the bathroom to determine the sex?Huh! That has to be a troll post.
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« Reply #147 on: June 30, 2013, 06:55:49 PM »

Yeah, they really must not be paying attention to that poor puppy at all or they are so shamed by sex that checking to see if it had a penis or not was morally wrong.

Either way, it's still a heartbreaking story that they cared so little for poor JJ that they had no idea its sex for a while.
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« Reply #148 on: June 30, 2013, 08:21:54 PM »

Retrospectively amusing....

We've renamed him J.J. to fit more of a boy personality.


Yeah, this is like another wtf moment. Did they not know how to ID the sex of a puppy?

Does this mean the dog is now named Blondie?
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« Reply #149 on: July 03, 2013, 04:38:53 PM »

Bushie, are your sermons online yet? I remember you said they would be in June but I never checked and lost the link to your church.
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