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IceSpear
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« on: September 19, 2018, 08:14:02 PM »

Freedom comment, of course. One of my favorite moments of the 2016 campaign. Smiley
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2018, 08:21:31 PM »

HC. Saying only half of Trumps supporters belonged in the basket was giving his voters way too much credit

Yeah, Hillary was way too generous.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2018, 08:23:54 PM »

Freedom comment because it probably cost Hillary the election Smiley

LOL, how absurd. You really think millions of Americans based their vote on this comment? It was already a distant memory by election day anyway.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2018, 09:00:49 PM »
« Edited: September 19, 2018, 09:07:53 PM by IceSpear »

Freedom comment because it probably cost Hillary the election Smiley

LOL, how absurd. You really think millions of Americans based their vote on this comment? It was already a distant memory by election day anyway.
Could've tipped the scales in WI, MI, and PA.

If it was enough to tip ~77,000 votes in those states combined, then you're talking hundreds of thousands of votes or potentially even millions of votes nationally. Does that past your smell test? Most people who were offended about it were already solid Trump supporters. And if the comment had that big of an impact, then Hillary wouldn't have had big leads in the polls from Access Hollywood (which was after basket of deplorables) until the Comey letter. In fact, it had barely budged her numbers at all, which were already in decline during that period of time for unrelated reasons. Even thinking it flipped Michigan alone is a stretch, because it would mean 11,000 individuals who wouldn't have otherwise voted for Trump did so solely because Hillary used the phrase "basket of deplorables" 2 months ago, which is silly. Especially when you account for how short the attention span of the average American is, much less the average "swing voter."
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IceSpear
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2018, 10:07:32 PM »

It was aimed at millions of decent, hardworking Americans whose social and religious views Hillary Clinton, personally, cannot abide.  It was aimed at far more than "extremists" and the "alt-right".

It was aimed at my wife and I, and millions like us.

Voting for Donald Trump was the easiest Republican vote I have cast in my life.  This is a former Democratic Party activist speaking; a person raised in a household of Democrats where Adlai Stevenson was my Mother's #1 FF.  Hillary made it easy.  I may well vote for Democrats in the future, but I'll NEVER vote for a Democrat I consider to be a Clintonite.  Period.

Because Trump never aimed at millions of decent, hardworking Americans with his rhetoric?
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IceSpear
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2018, 11:21:42 PM »

There are deplorables in America, of course, but half of all Trump supporters?

Yeah, she way lowballed it.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2018, 01:23:26 AM »

She said a portion of Trump's supporters were objectively bad people. That's simply stating a fact. In a way, it was magnanimous of her, because she was asking for compassion and engagement for the other portion of his supporters who were just dumb.

Are a portion of her supporters objectively bad people?

Uh, obviously.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2018, 01:42:24 AM »

Amazes me that people don’t this was terrible politics even if there’s truth to it.

I don't think a single person in this thread said it wasn't terrible politics. I argued earlier that it didn't have an impact on the results, which is not remotely the same thing. Trump attacking a dead Muslim soldier wasn't good politics either, but it didn't have an impact on the results.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2018, 12:39:06 AM »

edit: An apology to Trump voters and Republicans. What was here before was unfair and mean-spirited. I let my emotions get the better judgment of me. Sorry.

You can read the original comments in Politician's quote of my post.

I hope you only deleted it because of the last sentence, because it was a great post otherwise. Tongue
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