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IceSpear
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« on: August 15, 2018, 12:01:36 PM »
« edited: August 15, 2018, 12:06:26 PM by IceSpear »

Lol, that's not what Cohen said at all. Don't be obtuse. He's simply using a variation of the "if _____ told you to jump off a bridge, would you?" saying, and suggesting that Motormouth Marsha would if the god emperor told her to. In other words, he's correctly calling her a lemming.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2018, 01:37:02 PM »

Oh dear. This doesn't look like going high to me...

I'm sick of going high, and look where it's gotten us. To swing voters and soft supporters, it looks weak. I'd rather that the Democratic slogan for 2020 be "Ivanka is a C[inks]t" than ever hear "WHEN THEY GO LOW, WE GO HIGH" again.

"When they go low, we go high" is more like "when they win, we lose." That line should never see the light of day in any Democratic campaign again. I'd almost consider it a dealbreaker.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2018, 12:40:40 PM »

This is unequivocally the wrong way to go, but it's the outcome when one party's leader goes full dumpster fire discourse and the other tries to stick to civil discourse, only for the former to win an election and not be held accountable by their constituents afterward and for the latter to lose.

I only wish we can have a modicum of civility and rational discourse in the near future.

The reason this doesn't have consequences for the GOP is because they're a cult with zero ethics, something the Democratic party should really stop striving to be like. Most Dem voters have ethics, and that goes to another reason Trump won--Dem voters didn't show up because their candidates are increasingly acting like petty children who throw tantrums because their older sibling can be mean and they can't. This guy should resign because the party doesn't need this sort of cancerous mentality in it, unless they enjoy large swaths of voters seeing them as no different from the GOP.

Steve Cohen is one of the best members of the House. He can be blunt and abrasive at times but to resign for making a joke in poor taste in completely disproportionate.

If he's one of the best members of the house than the entire Dem caucus should resign. If we're going to have people that act like Republicans, and then have people defend this "because republicans do worse", for one you're letting Republicans dictate what is okay (and in effect legitimizing what they're doing) and second, validating all the people who didn't vote in 2016 because they saw both sides as the same.

Pretty sure that would be their own fault for making false equivalencies then. If you're going to preach about how Democrats are as bad as Republicans even when they're not, then you have no right to whine if they actually do end up becoming just as bad.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2018, 12:54:30 PM »

This is unequivocally the wrong way to go, but it's the outcome when one party's leader goes full dumpster fire discourse and the other tries to stick to civil discourse, only for the former to win an election and not be held accountable by their constituents afterward and for the latter to lose.

I only wish we can have a modicum of civility and rational discourse in the near future.

The reason this doesn't have consequences for the GOP is because they're a cult with zero ethics, something the Democratic party should really stop striving to be like. Most Dem voters have ethics, and that goes to another reason Trump won--Dem voters didn't show up because their candidates are increasingly acting like petty children who throw tantrums because their older sibling can be mean and they can't. This guy should resign because the party doesn't need this sort of cancerous mentality in it, unless they enjoy large swaths of voters seeing them as no different from the GOP.

Steve Cohen is one of the best members of the House. He can be blunt and abrasive at times but to resign for making a joke in poor taste in completely disproportionate.

If he's one of the best members of the house than the entire Dem caucus should resign. If we're going to have people that act like Republicans, and then have people defend this "because republicans do worse", for one you're letting Republicans dictate what is okay (and in effect legitimizing what they're doing) and second, validating all the people who didn't vote in 2016 because they saw both sides as the same.

Pretty sure that would be their own fault for making false equivalencies then. If you're going to preach about how Democrats are as bad as Republicans even when they're not, then you have no right to whine if they actually do end up becoming just as bad.

Oh, I agree 100% and am of the old thinking that you shouldn't complain about the outcome if you don't vote. But I also think the Dems (and the left in general) are legitimizing the Republican brand of "discourse" with things like this--and in the end all that's accomplished is a competition to see how awful of a human you can be. Dems and other left-leaners need to grow a spine and call this out when it's coming from our side instead of defending it.

Politicians as a whole would care more if the voters had any standards. See my sig. You get the government you deserve. The blame lies squarely on the voters (and as you said, the nonvoters.)
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