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IceSpear
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« on: November 28, 2017, 06:44:12 PM »

It would be the end of the GOP majority in both chambers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2014
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2014
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2017, 07:33:50 PM »


The point was on its own it guarantees nothing. If the GOP lost both chambers it would be due to the pendulum swinging the other way and Trump's poor approval rating, not them shutting down the government.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2017, 07:49:17 PM »

The previous government shutdowns have all come under divided government.  If it happens under unified control, it will be obvious which party owns it.  Most voters are smart enough to see that; those who won't are the unshakable core.

The unshakable core is bigger than most people here think though.

Also, polls showed at the time that voters unambiguously blamed the Republicans. It didn't matter because newer shiny objects grabbed their attention within a few weeks, much less months or a year. The voters have the attention span of a mentally retarded goldfish. Until Atlas understands this, they will continue to be perplexed by election results. It's hard for politics junkies like us to comprehend, but the most recent major news cycle being positive or negative for a particular candidate can easily swing a competitive race. For instance, reverse the timing of Comey's letter and the Access Hollywood tape and Hillary wins easily. The government shutdown in 2013 was already irrelevant by the time the Obamacare site malfunctioned weeks later, much less the Ebola hysteria in late 2014. There are countless more examples.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2017, 07:58:37 PM »
« Edited: November 28, 2017, 08:02:03 PM by IceSpear »

But the counter point is Trump is the one in charge not a dem so their is little chance of a shiny object distracting that will benefit the GOP

Agreed, but in that case it would just be a generic anti-Trump/anti most recent Trump controversy vote. I highly doubt anyone's vote would be decisively based around the government shutdown from a year ago.

Another example: Virginia Dems probably significantly outperformed the polls thanks to Mueller's perfectly timed indictments.
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