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Question: ...or will he be a stubborn old asshole?
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IceSpear
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« on: March 16, 2016, 01:58:36 AM »

Yes. The overarching goal at the start of his campaign was to influence the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, and the country as a whole. Given Clinton's leftward shift to more Sanders-esque policies and rhetoric, he'll probably agree that he succeeded in his goal to some extent. He'll support Clinton wholeheartedly to carry his ideas into the White House.

No, the goal was to win, not to have Hillary feint left.

Do you really think Bernie thought he could win when he began his campaign?

Maybe later on it seemed possible to him, but initially there's no way.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 08:53:31 PM »

Yes. The overarching goal at the start of his campaign was to influence the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, and the country as a whole. Given Clinton's leftward shift to more Sanders-esque policies and rhetoric, he'll probably agree that he succeeded in his goal to some extent. He'll support Clinton wholeheartedly to carry his ideas into the White House.

No, the goal was to win, not to have Hillary feint left.

Do you really think Bernie thought he could win when he began his campaign?

Maybe later on it seemed possible to him, but initially there's no way.

Back in 2014, he was saying he was thinking of running, but only if he thought he could win.  Just because he wasn't taken seriously for a long time didn't mean it wasn't a serious campaign.

Incidentally, I just happened to read this article today:

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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2016, 02:18:39 AM »

He's being just as gracious as the Clinton campaign was at this point in 2008.

Even if the two were in any way comparable (they're not), the key difference is that Hillary was solely fighting her opponent, Obama, while Bernie is fighting basically everyone who doesn't kiss his ass, actively working to block unity and trying to destroy the party's chances in November.

He really isn't. All he wants to do is make the process more open. Clinton did more damage to Obama and party unity with her pseudo-racist campaign in 2008 than Sanders has even come close to this year.

How exactly was her campaign racist in 2008?
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