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IceSpear
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« on: February 15, 2014, 12:49:31 PM »

This sort of makes me wonder if the next major Republican policy push would be against unions instead of social security or health care. I could easily see this becoming something that could be a winner for Republicans in 2017 if they don't get in too over their heads like Clinton did with healthcare and Obama almost did with health care. Perhaps it would be something between a National Right to Work Law or a law that will allow states to no longer have unions recognized in their states.

Unions are much too popular nationwide for this to be a winning issue.

The reason the union lost this time was that Corker and others threatened them.

They're so popular than union busters Rick Snyder, Scott Walker, and John Kasich are all favored for re-election in bluish/purplish states.

This is a shame, but no surprise. These days, even the Republican cashiers at McDonald's are just temporarily embarrassed millionaires, so they see no irony in hating unions.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2014, 01:33:38 PM »

This sort of makes me wonder if the next major Republican policy push would be against unions instead of social security or health care. I could easily see this becoming something that could be a winner for Republicans in 2017 if they don't get in too over their heads like Clinton did with healthcare and Obama almost did with health care. Perhaps it would be something between a National Right to Work Law or a law that will allow states to no longer have unions recognized in their states.

Unions are much too popular nationwide for this to be a winning issue.

The reason the union lost this time was that Corker and others threatened them.

They're so popular than union busters Rick Snyder, Scott Walker, and John Kasich are all favored for re-election in bluish/purplish states.

This is a shame, but no surprise. These days, even the Republican cashiers at McDonald's are just temporarily embarrassed millionaires, so they see no irony in hating unions.

That sounds like a punk rock group, the "Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaires".  Like I said, if union busting made big inroads in the rust belt, it will probably be front in center in 2017, depending on how 2016 goes.

If Rick Snyder is re-elected in Michigan of all places, I think that will mark the end of unions being an effective political force in this country. Walker surviving the recall was the canary in the coal mine, if Snyder wins, it will be the fat lady singing.

And yeah, I could definitely see nationwide RTW being on top of the Republican agenda if they win the presidency. Luckily that's pretty unlikely.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2014, 01:50:23 PM »

This sort of makes me wonder if the next major Republican policy push would be against unions instead of social security or health care. I could easily see this becoming something that could be a winner for Republicans in 2017 if they don't get in too over their heads like Clinton did with healthcare and Obama almost did with health care. Perhaps it would be something between a National Right to Work Law or a law that will allow states to no longer have unions recognized in their states.

Unions are much too popular nationwide for this to be a winning issue.

The reason the union lost this time was that Corker and others threatened them.

They're so popular than union busters Rick Snyder, Scott Walker, and John Kasich are all favored for re-election in bluish/purplish states.

This is a shame, but no surprise. These days, even the Republican cashiers at McDonald's are just temporarily embarrassed millionaires, so they see no irony in hating unions.

That sounds like a punk rock group, the "Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaires".  Like I said, if union busting made big inroads in the rust belt, it will probably be front in center in 2017, depending on how 2016 goes.

If Rick Snyder is re-elected in Michigan of all places, I think that will mark the end of unions being an effective political force in this country. Walker surviving the recall was the canary in the coal mine, if Snyder wins, it will be the fat lady singing.

And yeah, I could definitely see nationwide RTW being on top of the Republican agenda if they win the presidency. Luckily that's pretty unlikely.

You know unions were considered dead in the water in the 1920s, right? That was before the largest explosion in union membership in this nation's history. There are so many things going on right now for labor, so many new possibilities, etc. that I wouldn't be surprised if the next decade saw a similar explosion. The fast food workers are organizing. The retail workers are organizing. One vote going the wrong way in Chattanooga (as a result of political interference, no less) won't stop the onward march of working people in this country.

This vote makes no difference, you're right. The far more consequential issue is union busters not only surviving but thriving in areas of the country where being anti-union used to be the third rail of politics. Michigan is in the top 3 most heavily unionized states in the country, yet Rick Snyder has a positive approval rating and is currently winning in the polls, despite LYING about not supporting RTW and forcing it through virtually overnight with a lame duck Republican legislature. The goldfish-like attention span of the modern American worker will prove to be their undoing.

In addition, the Republicans seem to have convinced a substantial portion of former/would-be union supporters that unions are evil. I'm guessing because "well, if them republycans are Godly and Holy on abortion and homo marriage, they must be right about unions too!". Because of this, there's not much room for a full scale union revival.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2014, 02:13:44 PM »

This sort of makes me wonder if the next major Republican policy push would be against unions instead of social security or health care. I could easily see this becoming something that could be a winner for Republicans in 2017 if they don't get in too over their heads like Clinton did with healthcare and Obama almost did with health care. Perhaps it would be something between a National Right to Work Law or a law that will allow states to no longer have unions recognized in their states.

Unions are much too popular nationwide for this to be a winning issue.

The reason the union lost this time was that Corker and others threatened them.

They're so popular than union busters Rick Snyder, Scott Walker, and John Kasich are all favored for re-election in bluish/purplish states.

This is a shame, but no surprise. These days, even the Republican cashiers at McDonald's are just temporarily embarrassed millionaires, so they see no irony in hating unions.

Actually Kasich largely failed whenever he tried to pass union-busting legislation.  During a good chunk of 2011, he was tying Rick Scott for most unpopular Governor in the country due to SB 5 (boy was I proud to be an Ohioan the day we killed that horrible piece of legislation Smiley ).  Walker's actions sparked a recall election (albeit one that he won) and Snyder's popularity definitely took a hit due to his right to low wages law.

Yeah, they were hurt short term, but due to the goldfish attention spans of the public, they've all recovered since then, and are favored in their respective races. Decades ago, they would've all been complete lame ducks by now if they tried that crap.
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