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IceSpear
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« on: November 24, 2013, 04:18:55 PM »

#1 Hillary Clinton
#2 Chris Christie
#3 Kirsten Gillibrand
#4 Paul Ryan
#5 Scott Walker
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2013, 05:36:58 PM »

strange that I'm only one of two people here to list Rubio, as he's listed as the most likely Republican victor in most places that take bets on this.  http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner

He's proved he's a lightweight and not very bright with the immigration reform debacle. The Tea Party has ditched him like a cheap hooker for Cruz/Paul and the establishment would much rather have Christie or the other Floridian (Bush).
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2015, 01:40:55 PM »

#1 Hillary Clinton
#2 Chris Christie
#3 Kirsten Gillibrand
#4 Paul Ryan
#5 Scott Walker

LOL! Oh 2013...new list:

1) Hillary Clinton
2) Scott Walker
3) Jeb Bush
4) Rand Paul
5) John Kasich
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2015, 01:45:53 PM »

1. Hillary Clinton - anyone not putting her #1 is a hack. She clearly has the clearest path to being nominated, and is at least a 50/50 chance to win the general election.
2. Chris Christie - most likely Republican to win the general election, but will he get past the primaries without severely compromising his moderate credentials?
3. Scott Walker - I'm thinking one of the Cheesemen win the primary, and unlike Paul or Cruz I think they're in the mainstream enough to be electable. Walker ahead of Ryan because I reckon he's the most likely to run, I feel Ryan would be more happy in Congress.
4. Paul Ryan - see above.
5. Jeb Bush - he gets here as he has a strong resume, a strong regional base and probably hasn't soured himself so much on the far-right as Christie has. Several could challenge this spot IMO.

Why is Chris Christie most likely to win the general?Huh? He has accomplished nothing as GOV, squandering an excellent opportunity to move NJ to the right. Has a bromance problem with Obama with the GOP base and Bridgegate effectively killed his chances.

Look at the date of that post...
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2015, 01:06:05 AM »


lol
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IceSpear
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2015, 09:31:26 PM »

So what is the justification for the people who are still on the "Hillary isn't running" train? Because that train left the station a few months ago. And not only that, so confident she's not running that she doesn't make the list at all? Please explain.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2015, 12:25:53 AM »

I'm not so convinced that she's not running that I didn't include her on the list. I'm just not convinced that she will run. There are a couple of reasons for this. First of all, everyone is talking about Hillary running except Hillary. There is very little reason to think that she will based on anything she herself has said or done. More importantly though, I don't know why she would. She's an exceptionally flawed candidate without all that great a record, numerous gaffes, and a ton of baggage. She's not going to get a free ride and just walk into the White House and she knows it. Why on earth would she give up what she's got now for a far from inevitable shot at the presidency?
I know, IceSpear, that you think it's dumb wishful thinking, but I assure you I've read all that you've read and considered all that you've considered and I would in fact welcome a Hillary candidacy. I've been saying for years that she's a paper tiger and that Gillibrand would be a much stronger candidate. Hillary very well may run. I am not omnipotent, but I am open minded enough to look at her potential candidacy objectively and see that she has more reasons to sit it out.  However if she does run, she won't necessarily win. That's why she's not on my list of 5 most likely to win.

It's just a question of odds. If she runs, Gillibrand does not. So in order for Gillibrand to make the list but not Hillary, you'd have to consider her odds of running to be what? Like <10%?

As for what she's done to show she's running, she has certain individuals lined up for key positions on her campaign. That's further than nearly every other potential candidate on either side has gone. Her team is openly debating whether to launch the campaign in April or July. Why would they be debating such a thing if she hadn't already given them an indication she was going to run?
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