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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2021, 02:40:07 PM »
« edited: March 18, 2021, 02:50:50 PM by President Johnson »

MSNBC Live Coverage - DECISION 2016






+++ 8.54 p.m. Rubio wins Florida +++


Joe Scarborough: There were go! The first battleground call is my homestate of Florida. The Republican has carried the state, we can project, given all data that's coming in. Despite this being Marco Rubio's homestate, the McAuliffe campaign made a real effort to be competitive. We know from campaign officials that they at least wanted Republicans to play on defense here, and it sort of worked. But, they have failed to win the state. The governor himself said he believed to have a chance here, but ultimately, it didn't materialize. I told you so from the beginning, my friends! Don't believe the polls, which showed McAuliffe leading on average in September, before the picture changed.

Willie Geist: There go 29 electoral votes. Rubio now cracking 100 electoral votes. That's the first state President Obama won that goes Republican.

Mika Brzezinski: Indeed, that's a state Barack Obama won twice, actually. However, the night is not over and we know from officials of the McAuliffe campaign that they see multiple paths for the governor to become the 45th president left open.

Joe Scarborough: Yes, we'll see. Now close to nine o'clock, it's your turn at the big board, Steve.


9.00 p.m.

Steve Kornacki: We have a ton of states, where polls closed. We are going to start with states that the Republicans outright won: Louisiana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska all but the second district, Kansas, Oklahoma and Wyoming. All going Republican. In the states of Texas and Arizona, it's yet too early, but we expect them going red as well. Several states in number, but not worth a lot of electoral votes. So don't be confused with this mich red on the map now. We're still a long way to go. We're also unsure in New Mexico and most states filled in the Midwest, though we expect them to lean Democratic.

Governor McAuliffe and his running mate, Businesswoman Melida Gates, also get a stack of electoral votes at this hour: The state of Colorado is going Democratic. It's not a huge surprise, but interesting that we can call this so early. This is a state that George W. Bush won twice, but that has changed a lot since the days of the 43rd president was in office. Maeco Rubio had hopes to make inroads with the Hispanic community here, but ultimately they decided to invest more into New Mexico after internal numbers showed that may be a better idea.

And, of course, Terry McAuliffe has decisively won his homestate of New York. He is expected to crack 60% here. 29 electoral votes for McAuliffe. Let's update the map:



Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 138 EV.
Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 116 EV.
Too close/early to call: 178 EV.


+++ 9.19 p.m. Georgia for Rubio, New Hampshire and Virginia for McAuliffe +++

Joe Scarborough: We interrupt the break for three important calls: Georgia is going Republican. That was expected, but McAuliffe made it closer than in previous cycles, it seems. That's a dynamic and growing southern state that gets more and more diverse. Even though the Rubio campaign managed to defend this territory, the Republicans can no longer take the Peach State for granted.

Willie Geist: You say it, Joe, the McAuliffe campaign did put up a number of ads on the air here, but shifted the focus in the closing days on North Carolina. We will see how that plays out. Right now, it's extremely close and counting slow.

Joe Scarborough: Alright, the other projections are missing out: Virginia and New Hampshire again go into the McAuliffe column. Latter was quite a fight, but Virginia is just like Colorado. A state George W. Bush won quite easily, but has voted for Barack Obama twice. Seems like they wanted to keep a Democrat at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. That means McAuliffe is somewhat narrowed the gap in the total count. But we're far from done. Look at the map now before we go to break again:



Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 154 EV.
Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 133 EV.
Too close/early to call: 145 EV.
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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2021, 02:26:05 PM »
« Edited: March 18, 2021, 02:53:29 PM by President Johnson »

MSNBC Live Coverage - DECISION 2016






+++ 9.40 p.m. Minnesota for McAuliffe +++

Joe Scarborough: We have another one, Steve. Go ahead!

Steve Kornacki: We have Joe, welcome back to our coverage to all of you out there. MSNBC, NBC News and the New York Times are confirming that Terry McAuliffe has carried the state of Minnesota and its ten electoral votes. Looks like the governor will win here by around five points, 51% to 46%. Remember back in the primaries, Rubio had a stunning victory here over his Republican opponents, what ultimately helped him to get ahead on Super Tuesday. However, McAuliffe lost the Democratic primary by almost ten points. Yet again that shows us that primaries are not general elections and anything can happen. Both campaigns targeted the state, though Rubio and Mattis were far more focussed on Iowa, where we expect them to win. Meanwhile, Governor McAuliffe ignored the advice or some aides that the state was a lock and did invest a ton of money here. He also held two rallies in the five weeks leading up to today.

Willie Geist: Indeed, Mr. McAuliffe did his homework after losing the primary against Bernie Sanders here. However, Republicans don't need the state and if it went the other way, you'd see a lot of panic at McAuliffe Headquarters right now. But that didn't happen as they pulled through.


+++ 9.49 p.m. Texas for Rubio +++

Steve Kornacki: Alright, here we go: The second biggest price of the night is called: The state of Texas goes into the Rubio column, as the senator finally took a lead of nearly a million votes. Given how much is counted, it's fair to say that he will win the Lone Star State. Remarkable though is that McAuliffe has come closer than President Obama so far. Democrats are dreaming of blue Texas for quite a while because of changing demographics, but 2016 is way too early. We expect Rubio to win by about ten points, maybe eleven.

Joe Scarborough: Yes, I told Democrats on this show that Texas isn't happening in '16, and not in '20 either. Mark my words! Not happening! Talk to me again in eight or twelve years and we have a discussion. McAuliffe made the right choice by focussing on New Mexico, Arizona and Florida when it comes to the South and South-West.

Mika Brzezinski: Your words in god's ear. Democrats did pick up at least one House seat in Texas, though. Just for anyone who's asking. But we expect Republicans to keep the chamber while the senate is a pure tossup.

Steve Kornacki: It still is, but we can now project that Carlos Lopez-Cantera has won Marco Rubio's senate seat. He was not running for reelection and Lopez-Cantera defeated a number of GOP rivals in the primary. Now the lieutenant governor will go the Washington, having defeated Patrick Murphy.

Let's look at the map:



Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 192 EV.
Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 143 EV.
Too close/early to call: 97 EV.


10.00 p.m.

Joe Scarborough: Alright, we have more poll closings at this hour. These are a bunch of Western states in the Rocky Mountains. Steve, tell us more.

Steve Kornacki: And the state of Iowa. You left that out, Joe. That being said, no result from Iowa yet. It's too early, although we expect Senator Rubio is good showing here. This would be another pickup from 2012 and President Obama's victory. Anyway, Marco Rubio has more to add on his tally. States we are calling right now: Utah and Montana. These states stay in the Republican column and give them some modest gains. However, as Rubio crosses 200 electoral votes, he is close to having carried all red states. From now on, he has to start winning more battlegrounds to maintain his lead. McAuliffe for his part has the West Coast in his bag, but he also needs bellwethers to gain steam. His easiest path is through the Midwest now.


+++ 10.09 p.m. McAuliffe takes New Mexico +++

Steve Kornacki: I just wanted to move to the Big Board, but there is another call: It was a little closer than expected, but New Mexico is sticking with the Democrats and has been declared for Governor McAuliffe this very minute. A small, but important win for the Virginia governor. He adds another five electoral votes to his tally. Take a look, before we go to break:



Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 201 EV.
Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 148 EV.
Too close/early to call: 98 EV.
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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2021, 02:55:39 PM »

So, due the scandals, I replaced Andrew Cuomo with Terry McAuliffe. Another establishment governor at the age of 59 in 2016, but whose integrity is (very likely) out of question.

Look forward to the finish within the next few days.
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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2021, 02:08:54 PM »

MSNBC Live Coverage - DECISION 2016






+++ 10.31 p.m. Iowa for Rubio! +++

Joe Scarborough: Alright, folks, Steve has some news on the big board. Steve?

Steve Kornacki: That's correct, Joe, I was just told that Marco Rubio flipped the state of Iowa from blue in 2012 to red in 2016. Six more electoral votes on his tally. Polls suggested that would happen, so I assume they're not too worried over in McAuliffe Headquarters. Republicans meanwhile breathe some relief that Rubio won this one, just as Chuck Grassley easily won reelection.

Willie Geist: There was much talk during this campaign that Democrats may have lost grip with white rural voters, especially in parts of the Midwest. Looks like that is true in Iowa.

Steve Kornacki: You're correct, Willie, though it's more compley than that. Now as we're getting a broader picture here, we witness increasing divide between rural and urban areas. Even compared to 2012. McAuliffe is doing much worse than President Obama in rural areas, especially in the Midwest. However, he's ourtunning Obama in several metro areas and parts of the Suburbs. Iowa doesn't have a metro area where McAuliffe could rack up a lot of votes. That's why he has lost the state.

Mika Brzezinski: I think there is something to it when it comes to the Midwest, but it's remarkable that McAuliffe is still running close in Ohio.

Steve Kornacki: Yes, Mika, that's true. McAuliffe was way ahead early on because Democratic areas were counted first, but Rubio has massively catched up at this hour. However, he's still behind by about 50,000 votes and most rural areas have finished their counting, including the River Valley, which was once a Democratic stronghold but shifted rightwards. I think this one will be really close in the end.

Joe Scarborough: I have to interrupt you, my friends, we got word from Michigan.

Steve Kornacki: Yes, Joe, we have. MSNBC joins other news outlets, including Fox News, and calls Michigan for Governor Terry McAuliffe. A state Republicans have barely targeted, unlike Wisconsin, remains in the Democratic column. 16 eletoral votes go to the McAuliffe/Gates ticket. As the West Coast is still outstanding, the Democrats still haven't catched up to Rubio's lead. However, Rubio and Mattis have to win more battlegrounds to come close to 270. And right now, all their must haves are pretty much in.



Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 207 EV.
Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 164 EV.


+++ 11 p.m. McAuliffe racks up West Coast Electoral Votes +++



Joe Scarborough: Here we are at eleven o'clock and the West Coast states and Idaho close their polls. What can you tell us, Steve?

Steve Kornacki: I can tell you that there are no surprises. Idaho, as expected goes for the Rubio/Mattis ticket, and it isn't even close. However, these four electoral votes are not much compared to what McAuliffe is getting: He's easily winning California, the biggest prize of the night and its 55 electoral votes. He's also crusing to victory in Oregon and wins the state of Washington, the homestate of his running mate, Businesswoman Melissa Gates, wife of Bill Gates. If elected, Ms. Gates would not just be the first female vice president, but also the first from Washington. She's also the first Westerner on a Democratic ticket.

Outstanding the West remains Nevada, which is very competitive. Both parties are not just eying the presidential race in the Silver State, but also a critical senate election. Harry Reid announced his retirement, making this an open race between Catherine Cortez-Masto, the Democrat, and Republican Joe Heck. As of now, Cortez-Masto is slightly running ahead of McAuliffe. In other states like Ohio, we witness the exact opposite, with Rob Portman already the declared winner. In North Carolina, meanwhile, there is almost no ticket splitting between presidential and senate elections.

Now looking at the big board, McAuliffe has pulled ahead, though he's not near 270 right now:



Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 238 EV.
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 211 EV.
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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2021, 02:15:09 PM »

MSNBC Live Coverage - DECISION 2016






+++ 11.24 p.m. McAuliffe takes Pennsylvania +++

Joe Scarborough: Good evening my friends, it's pretty late at night and we're getting major news out of Pennsylvania, a key battleground in this election. According to our data, Governor McAuliffe has eked out a win here. That's a huge deal for the Democratic ticket and gets him 20 electoral votes on top. What can you tell us, Steve?

Steve Kornacki: Joe, this is absolutely true, these 20 electoral votes increase McAuliffe's tally to 258, just 12 short of the 270 needed. With close to 98% counted, we expect McAuliffe to beat Rubio by a little less than two points. That's very close of course, but with just two percent oustanding and McAuliffe leading by over 100,000 votes, I fail to see where Senator Rubio can make up the deficit. The Pittsburgh area came in big with votes a few minutes ago, causing the Democratic ticket to pull ahead. Pennsylvania is a done deal.

Willie Geist: What can you tell us about that critical senate race? And how's Wisconsin going?

Steve Kornacki: You're right, an extremely pivotal senate race here as well, as Republican Pat Thomey is fighting for reelection. He and Joe Sestak, whom he narrowly beat in 2010, are neck in neck. The Democrats hope to gain this seat for winning back a senate majority.

At the presidental level, all eyes are now on Wisconsin and Ohio. We're not able to project either right now, as both are close. In Wisconsin, Rubio narrowly ahead with about 88% in, but Milwaukee and Green Bay are not done yet, so McAuliffe should rack up a few thousand more votes here. He's probably favored statewide, depending on whether Rubio can maintain his lead. In Ohio, it's an opposite development, where McAuliffe pulled ahead early, but as rural votes were reported later, Rubio came back. At this moment, McAuliffe's lead is dropping and dropping, but he's still ahead by about 36,000 votes. Down 14,000 from last hour. Republican stategists tell us that they think they have this in the end, but admit, it's not where they would like to be to feel safe.

Willie Geist: Yes, I could imagine both campaigns are very nervous right now, as we come closer and closer to the decision.

Joe Scarborough: That's undoubtly true, though I'd rather be in the Democrats' shoes right now. At least until Rubio has locked Ohio down in his column and is still in the game in Wisconsin. Take a look at the map:



Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 258 EV.
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 211 EV.


+++ 11.38 p.m. Arizona for Rubio, Congressional districts split votes +++

Joe Scarborough: We have more to cover at this hour, and there are new developments. Steve?

Steve Kornacki: We're nearing the decision, my friends. A sign for of relief for Republicans now that we can confirm Marco Rubio's victory in Arizona. An important win, as this is one of the long-time Republican strongholds the Democrats hoped to make inroads. Well, they did make it closer than it was supposed to be, but it wasn't enough this time. Maybe this is a true battleground in 2020 or 2024. Definitely keep an eye on this state, but for now, Republicans can add this to their tally. After McAuliffe winning Pennsylvania, this is an urgently needed one. And, another projection: Nebraska's second congressional district votes Democratic! As President Obama managed to do in 2008, Terry McAuliffe wins that district around Omaha by a razor thin margin. However, one thing Obama archieved that McAuliffe didn't: Marco Rubio becomes the first Republican in decades to win Maine's second congressional district. It's not even that close, about three points. What a night!

Willie Geist: I guess if a timetraveler told us last week how one of these districts would vote, we would have assumed its winner takes the presidency. Depending on which one we would have been told about. Looks like this map looks more different from 2012 than we expected.

Steve Kornacki: That's true, no matter how it goes. I'm just checking the remaining states that are still undecided. I just received word McAuliffe's lead in Ohio has again dropped by 5,000, but there are less than 5% left to count. That one will be razor thin one way or the other. We're also hearing that Rubio has exceeded expectations in Clark County, Nevada, and runs ahead statewide. This could confirm the polls who saw him ahead in the Silver State. Democrats dismissed these polls since Nevada polls have tended to overestimate Republican support in the past. I should note, however, that Rubio is ahead of senate candidate Joe Heck by more than 20,000 votes. That's significant. As for North Carolina, McAuliffe leads by about a half percentage points and 97% in. If he wins this one alone, he's president-elect. But we're not there yet. Stay tuned.



Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 259 EV.
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 223 EV.
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« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2021, 01:34:46 PM »

MSNBC Live Coverage - DECISION 2016






+++ 11.45 p.m. McAuliffe wins Wisconsin, closing in on 270 +++

Joe Scarborough: Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a major, major development in the race for the presidency. As of now, I can confirm that NBC News, Fox News and the New York Times officially declare Terry McAuliffe the winner in the state of Wisconsin. This is very big news because, well, it adds ten more electoral votes to the Democratic tally, which stands at 269 now. That's exactly half of 538 available electors. So, that practially means Marco Rubio would need all remaining electors to get to a 269 tie before he could go to the House, in which he would win by state delegations.

Mika Brzezinski: That's a rather theoretical scenario, though, since Hawaii is expected to vote Democratic and bringing McAuliffe's total number of electoral votes to 273. I think at this point, we could refer to Terry McAuliffe as President-elect McAuliffe.

Steve Kornacki: You're correct, Mika, though I prefer to wait before we have officially crossed the 270 threshhold. And speaking of state delegations reminded me of an update at the congressional level: It looks like Republicans are losing at least a dozen seats. We don't know the final composition of the House at this hour, but at least the GOP gains from 2014 are undone. However, Democrats are not expected to win the chamber back. In the senate, it looks like we're either headed for a tie or a narrow Republican majority. But it's pretty much a done deal that the White House will remain with the Democrats.



Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 269 EV.
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 223 EV.


+++ BREAKING: Terry McAuliffe wins presidency, elected 45th President +++



+++ 12.00 a.m Hawaii puts McAuliffe over the top, Rubio wins Alaska +++

Joe Scarborough: Alright, here we have it. Alaska and Hawaii came in as expected and latter, with its four electoral votes, has made it official: Terrence Richard McAuliffe, governor of the great state of Virginia, has been elected the 45th president of the United States. Coming January 20, 2017, he will succeed fellow Democrat Barack Obama and be the commander-in-chief of the United States. A businessman who has spent several years in politics has now been elected to the highest office in the land. And with it, Barack Obama has accomplished what Ronald Reagan did in 1988: As an outgoing two term president, a successor from his own party was elected. That's a remarkable feat.

Mika Brzezinski: And very importantly, someone else made history: Melinda Gates, businesswoman and wife of Bill Gates, will be the first female vice president in our nation's history. What a great day for women this is! I'm truly excited for her and can't wait to see how she will fill in that new role, especially after the president-elect promised to make her a true governing partner.

Willie Geist: Indeed, Mika, we're curious to see how that plays out. But also what role her husband will play. I mean, he's one of the most well known men in this country. During the campaign, he took a smaller role. While he did campaign stops and gave a few interviews, he tried to stay in the background and leave the spotlight to his wife.

Mika Brzezinski: Yes, though I can't imagine how excited he must be. However, Bill Gates said he wanted to use the ceremonial role to advance the various causes he's already engaged in. It will be an interesting dynamic to watch for sure.

Joe Scarborough: And that's how it stands now:



✓ Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 273 EV.
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 226 EV.


+++ 12.12 a.m: North Carolina for McAuliffe, Nevada for Rubio +++

Steve Kornacki: Alright, guys, I have to interrupt here in your conversation about Melinda Gates. Vice President-elect Gates, I have to say. Still a term, we have to get used to. I have two more states in which we feel confident to make calls now: Nevada and North Carolina. Both of them are kind of a surprise and were usually expected to vote in the exact opposite way. Marco Rubio has won the Silver States, flipping another Obama 2008 and 2012 state from blue back to red. It's very close with a margin of about a half percentage point, but all that counts is having more votes than your opponent. That's six more electoral votes for him. Nevertheless, Governor McAuliffe -- pardon, President-elect McAuliffe -- clinches 15 more to his column: He flipped back the state of North Carolina by a few thousands votes. A state President Obama carried in 2008, but lost it to Mitt Romney four years ago. It appears as if he had a strong turnout from African American voters for whose votes he heavily campaigned with a massive on-the-ground operation, especially in the closing days of the campaign. Meanwhile, McAuliffe slightly improved among suburban and rural white voters from 2012. His efforts here were long dismissed or even ridicouled by political observers, but here we are. The polls in this state certainly showed a last minute swing to McAuliffe.

Willie Geist: Fascinating. The opposite is true in Nevada, where Rubio strongly went in for Hispanic voters. And with success. The polls mostly showed him ahead here and proved to be right while the Democrats were overconfident. However, they keep Harry Reid's senate seat, as Catherina Cortez-Masto narrowly won. What can you tell us about North Carolina?

Steve Kornacki: Two more wins for Democrats: Roy Cooper hass defeated Pat McCrory in the race for governor and former senator Kay Hagan seems to have ousted Richard Burr. Two years after narrowly losing her reelection to the senate, she's likely to return. That means we're headed to a 50-50 senate or a narrow Republican majority. Ohio is now the only outstanding state for a call and we have no idea who will win here in the end. After another junk of votes came in, McAuliffe's once 50,000 lead dropped to 21,000, with about 35,000 left to be reported. We expect that to be mostly Republican votes. Whether McAuliffe's lead holds is unclear. It's possible, but far from granted.

Joe Scarborough: And we just received unoffical reports that Marco Rubio has called Terry McAuliffe and expressed his congratulations to winning the election. Our sources tell us the call lasted a couple of minutes in which McAuliffe thanked his opponent for a fair campaign and expressed his openess to work together for the good of the nation. We don't know when exactly the new president will address the nation, though our Republican sources say Senator Rubio will deliver his remarks tomorrow morning as the final result is expected to come in. Stay tuned.



✓ Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 288 EV.
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 232 EV.
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« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2021, 03:06:48 PM »

I'm calling that Ohio goes to Rubio by 1,000 votes or so, just barely losing it's streak. I hope I'm wrong.

Or maybe you plan on having OH go blue by 1,000 votes to make it 306 the other way.

You'll find out soon Wink

I will also post a full state by state result table.
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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2021, 01:34:49 PM »

MSNBC Live Coverage - DECISION 2016






+++ 11.28 a.m., November 9: McAuliffe ekes out Ohio +++

Joe Scarborough: Good morning my friends, after a very short night. An hour after Marco Rubio delivered his concession speech, Steve has the last state to be called.

Steve Kornacki: Indeed, Joe, all the votes in Ohio are now in and have been counted. In the final drop Senator Rubio again closed to gap by several thousand votes, but it was just not enough to overcome the McAuliffe lead. Both candidates are at 49.2% rounded, but McAuliffe in the end won by just a little over 3,000 votes. That's even much closer than the 12,000 votes he won North Carolina by, mirroring Rubio's raw vote lead in the state of Nevada. Finally, that brings the McAuliffe/Gates column up to 306 electoral votes, versus 232 for Rubio/Mattis. That's 26 more electoral votes than Mitt Romney won four years ago, but was not enough to win back the presidency. Silverlining for Republicans: Despite losing about 20 seats, as things stand today, they maintain a majority in the House of Representatives. Meanwhile in the senate, there is a 50-50 tie, resulting into a Democratic majority because Melinda Gates, as vice president, will have the tie breaking vote.

Joe Scarborough: A fascinating result that will require both parties to work together. And that's what Americans want, just as I said over and over again. Forget about this Tea Party stuff, forget about socialism BS, Americans want the parties to work together. The congress is narrowly divided both ways, and McAuliffe won the deciding states by close margins. However, Republicans must ask themselves how they again didn't win the White House for a third time in a row.

Willie Geist: You have a point, Joe. Republicans may trash Rubio now, but he actually ran a decent race. However, you have an incumbent president who sits at 55% approval rating, a growing economy and a relative stable worldorder. The jobs report that just came out a few weeks ago was very encouraging. And while the Republican campaign heavily targeted Hispanic voters, the Democrats did well in turning out the black vote. But I do believe Rubio's approach wasn't failure, given his performance in a number of states, including flipping Nevada. And you know, the guy is in his mid 40s, he can run again. Maybe in four years, who knows?

Joe Scarborough: Yeah, who knows? Let's look at the final result now.



✓ Governor Terrence McAuliffe (D-VA)/Businesswoman Melinda Gates (D-WA): 306 EV. (50.77%)
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/General James Mattis (R-WA): 232 EV. (47.42%)






Senate



Democratic: 50 (+4) including 2 Independents
Republican: 50 (-4)


House

Republican: 225 (-22)
Democratic: 210 (+22)

Changes vs. 2014 election
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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2021, 03:05:45 PM »

Once President Johnson is fully done , I will be doing the next scenario which will be  Nixon vs Humphrey vs a Dixiecrat candidate in 1960 instead of 1968

Looking forward to this, I have finished.
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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2021, 01:23:09 PM »

I actually wanted to ask whom the vice presidential candidates will be in this matchup and wanted to suggest Stuart Symington for Humphrey.

Expect Nixon to pull this out by a fair but not large margin of victory.
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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2021, 01:42:22 PM »

If Nixon takes Ohio and Kentucky that early on, he's absolutely going to win.
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« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2021, 01:58:43 PM »

I predict Nixon winning all Western states yet to be called and Illinois. Without Hawaii, that gets him to 254, and Virginia alone would put him over the top. New Jersey comes on top then. Michigan probably goes to Humphrey. If Nixon also takes Alaska, which is likely, he wins with 285 electoral votes.
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« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2021, 02:13:16 PM »

Good work, although I don't like where the election is going here.
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E: -3.23, S: -4.70


« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2021, 01:27:30 PM »

Looks about right, though I predict Cuomo to win. He takes the West coast, Iowa, Missouri, Tennessee and New Mexico, while Poppy narrowly keeps Ohio and Arkansas.
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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2021, 01:14:31 PM »

California will decide the election. I think Cuomo definitely takes Oregon and Washington. Even Dukakis got them in 1988.
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« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2021, 04:49:56 AM »

Ugh. I keep forgetting to update this.

Take your time, we all have busy lives Smiley
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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2021, 05:03:59 AM »

Looking forward to this and hope Chips will resume at some later date.

I'm obviously busy with my TL, though 1980 election night (Brown vs. Reagan) will begin after the next (and final pre-election) update.
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2023, 02:36:05 PM »

Good to see this returning. I might do one again, though I'm not sure which scenario yet.
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