Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v2

[President Johnson]

The Biden hate just never ends, does it?

Do you guys ever step back and think about why you feel the need to interpret everything anyone on team Biden says in the worst possible light?

You wouldn't do the same regarding Team Sanders, so please, spare us all the hysteria.

I don't know. I don't hate the Bern and would absolutely support him against Donald Trump.

[President Johnson]

Uncle Joe already has two more ads out, one on gun control and the other on his friendship with Obama

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1164159968641110018

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1164585019513298944

[President Johnson]

This new ad on healthcare is just magnificent. A very strong message.

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1166319450909315072

[President Johnson]

Uncle Joe is so cool

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1166853718366740480

[President Johnson]

Actually, Obama's poor performance in the 2010 & 2014 midterms and gave us Speaker Boehner gave us Trump. If it not had been the tea party rise, there wouldnt be no 2010 or no 2016

I think Joe Biden will be less hated by the opposition. In part (sadly) because he's an old white guy and not far-left.

[President Johnson]

Uncle Joe just was on Stephen Colbert. I don't know, but this doesn't make the impression something is wrong. He talked in a pretty clear way and made a very human impression. You may dislike his policy positions, but I don't know how someone can't like the person. And this is why he's a much better candidate than Hillary was.

He's definitely much better in these interviews than on the debate stage with nine other people.

[President Johnson]

Uncle Joe just was on Stephen Colbert. I don't know, but this doesn't make the impression something is wrong. He talked in a pretty clear way and made a very human impression. You may dislike his policy positions, but I don't know how someone can't like the person. And this is why he's a much better candidate than Hillary was.

He's definitely much better in these interviews than on the debate stage with nine other people.

TBH the climate debate was pretty weak.  He sounded really aggravated the whole time and was very word-salady and dodged a few questions.  Don't know what went wrong, it wasn't a typical Biden performance

Agree, I've seen parts of it. Wasn't that good. But the Colbert appearance was very fine.

[President Johnson]

First of all, what he have to do is go back and turn back all the changes that in fact the president has made, from CAFE standards to moving in the direction that we in fact deal with providing people who get displaced opportunities to have jobs by sending them back to school, by doing continuing education, whole range of things. I would see to it in the first, immediately, moving toward, you know we're in fact in a position now that if in fact we dealt with mitigation across the board, just what we did in the last administration and before, leading to a standard that we provide efficiency for appliances.

I think I just had a stroke.

It's like one of those Hidden Markov Model machine learning programs that generates sports articles or political articles or political speeches based on an existing dataset.  In isolation all the phrases sound like sensible Biden things, but as a whole it's just a mess, it's all over the place.  Like I said, total word salad.

One thing I've noticed from watching him, Biden's campaign staff told him to stop saying "the fact of the matter is" and he's just replaced it with the shorter "in fact" which is worse because the entire point of these little phrases is to stall until you figure out what you want to say next, and he's giving himself less stalling time.

Perhaps, but I've noticed that he very often used the expression "the fact of the matter is", dating back to 1980s. Everyone has certain favorite words or phrases to use.

[President Johnson]

Nobody in the real world cares what random SJWs on Twitter are saying about Uncle Joe.

[President Johnson]

Interesting Article:

A Joe Biden- Gretchen Whitmer Ticket? It May Happen

I have been talking to a number of prominent Democrats about possible running mates for Joe Biden in the event that he wins the Democratic presidential nomination.

Biden’s vice-presidential selection would be critical, and not only for its effect on the campaign. If he were to win and only serve one term, the vice-presidential nominee would likely have the inside track for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2024.

[...]

Whitmer is 48, and Biden will be 77 in November. A Biden- Whitmer ticket would be a perfect balance in terms of gender, age, and geography. And both are center-left in terms of ideology.

A Biden-Whitmer ticket would be a match made in heaven. And I think it may happen.

Full Article on InsiderNJ


I'd absolutely LOVE this ticket and Gretchen Whitmer was the frontrunner for, but I can't imagine she runs for vice president about 18-20 months into her first gubernatorial term.

Wikipedia lists this article as source she endorsed Joe Biden, but I didn't find any other source that she actually did. But it would be wonderful if they team up.

[President Johnson]

Biden has the largest field operation in Iowa: https://iowastartingline.com/2019/09/09/joe-biden-builds-out-iowa-field-army-taps-old-relationships/

He currently has 75 staff in Iowa, 60 of which are field. By the end of September he will have 110 staff in Iowa, of which 80 will be field. His Iowa operation is headed by Obama field vet Jake Braun -- he's good.

This is great news. I think it's key for him to win in Iowa. Not because there are a lot delegates at stake, but to build up momentum and cement his frontrunner status. If he does well there, he may win New Hampshire and/or Nevada as well, putting him in a very solid position for Super Tuesday.

[President Johnson]

Great ad

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1172177884385075200

[President Johnson]

Remember when people thought he’d be a better candidate than Hillary Clinton? Lol.

Uncle Joe would have beaten Trump in 2016. Doesn't have all the baggage she had and equally important: Authenticity. Something Hillary lacks.

[President Johnson]

Do I wish Joe Biden was 10-20 years younger? Yes, for sure. But if he's able to win the nomination, and at this point he has the easiest path, he'll take on Trump. He's a much stronger candidate than Hillary because people view him as authentic, even when he makes gaffes. He should pick a younger and female running mate, which will put doubts to rest. We also need someone who can it in and do the job, meaning to build on the Obama legacy and clean up the mess Trump has left.

It's sad Steve Bullock isn't going anywhere, because he would be a very exiciting and strong candidate as well.

[President Johnson]

Honestly the latest debate has me a little unnerved. I’m on record here attacking posters who have said mean things about Biden and his age. I’m also on record of wanting a Biden/Gabbard ticket. I have wanted Joe to run since he was Obama’s VP. I was an enthusiastic supporter and he is the only Democratic candidate I would vote for.

However the last debate has shaken me. The fact that he seems to be stuck in another time mentally (the deeply embarrassing record player comment), the increasing gaffes which due to his age can be co strayed as evidence of senility, the way his speech has devolved in many cases to Trump-esque word salad - I feel my resolve weakening and my support declining from “enthusiastic” to “cautious.” I do not want Warren or any of the rest but I feel like if Biden is the nominee there’s a good chance he’ll lose and as someone who likes Biden personally I don’t want to see a great career like his end in defeat to Trump.

I also don’t know who else I’ll support because I feel the rest of the candidates are too far socially left for me.

Anyone else in a similar situation?

Klobuchar is too far left for you?

Klobuchar has the same positions as all the other candidates.

She's fine politically, but these stories how she's abusing her staff are diaqualifying. Steve Bullock would be a great alternative to Uncle Joe, but sadly, he doesn't have a shot.

[President Johnson]

Do I wish Joe Biden was 10-20 years younger? Yes, for sure. But if he's able to win the nomination, and at this point he has the easiest path, he'll take on Trump. He's a much stronger candidate than Hillary because people view him as authentic, even when he makes gaffes. He should pick a younger and female running mate, which will put doubts to rest. We also need someone who can it in and do the job, meaning to build on the Obama legacy and clean up the mess Trump has left.

It's sad Steve Bullock isn't going anywhere, because he would be a very exiciting and strong candidate as well.

Stop denigrating Hillary to prop Biden up. Obama didn’t even want him to run and preferred Hillary to be the one to carry his mantle.

He didn't run in 2016 because of Beau's death, and for no other reason. Obama read the primary polls that Hillary was inevitable (and he endorsed her not until she got the nomination). Uncle Joe would have beaten Trump in 2016. Hillary was a poor candidate.

[President Johnson]

Biden delivers most significant speech yet on race, says silence on hate 'is complicity'

Former Vice President Joe Biden on Sunday made his most expansive speech yet on race, calling on the nation to live up to its founding ideals and saying that silence on racism amounts to complicity.

"There can be no realization of the American Dream without grappling with the original sin of slavery," Biden told churchgoers in Alabama while delivering the keynote address at services marking the 56th anniversary of the deadly bombing of Birmingham's 16th Street Baptist Church.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-delivers-expansive-speech-race-says-silence-hate-complicity-n1054601

Honestly, this was one of the best speeches Uncle Joe has given in a while. So presidential; this is what we need back in the Oval Office instead of the smallness and stupidity of Donald Trump.

He should have given this speech at a white church. They are the ones that need to hear it.

Why are you criticizing almost everything he does? This speech is really not something he deserves criticism for. I would have praised any other candidate including Bernie and Liz for such an address.

[President Johnson]

Even as Biden supporter who is really excited about him, I admit he needs to generate more enthusiasm among Democrats. His polling numbers are worthless if people don't turn out as they should. What can Joe Biden do to generate more enthusiasm for his candidacy without sacraficing who he is and what he stands for? A big strenght of him is, according to various sources, his direct interaction with people. But obviously he can't meet every single voter in person. I think his ads so far are pretty good, but I would like to have more young people on board. For example, on Instagram, he's stuck at 1.3 million followers for a couple of months. Overall, what could he do?  

[President Johnson]

The reason he's polling high is the nostalgia for the previous administration. If he remained a Senator and still ran this cycle, he'd be doing about as well as in 2008. And the nostalgia factor may very well wear off too, especially since Obama is keeping his distance from Biden's campaign.

Biden is a man from the past, and a poor fit for today's Democratic base. His attempts at readjusting himself comes across as insincere and poorly executed. His record is hanging around his neck like a giant albatross. His goofy "I'm your cool uncle Joe" schtick won't do the trick.

And no, I'm not discounting the possibility that his uncertain lead could carry him to the nomination if the opposition remains so divided (especially in early, crucial states), but I don't see him generating "more" enthusiasm. As of the whole talking point of his "moderate credentials" making him more "electable" come general election than other Democratic candidates, that's just deluded.

You've got some badly outdated talking points there. Even most leftists, pivoting to claiming his brain is melting, have given up saying Biden is "out of touch" with the party... maybe because it's clearly not true? The most recent CNN poll had liberals at 42% of the primary electorate and moderate/conservatives at 57%. Biden is of course dominating the latter category, but he remains competitive with the former too.

The base is not what you think it is.

As for the thread, you don't need a large pool of enthusiastic fanatics to win an election. The internet has distorted many people's minds.

There's one thing, a generic 2010's "moderate" Democrat is not really the same thing as a generic 1990s moderate Democrat.

Biden isn't even a centrist, he's an Obama-style liberal Democrat. He's not as far left as Warren (let alone Bernard), but he's center left where most Democrats outsider the Twitter safe space are.

[President Johnson]

Uncle Joe still has the most reasonable path to the nomination. He could afford losing Iowa and New Hampshire, where they are must-wins for Warren and Sanders. If Biden wins Iowa, and he has at least a 40% chance, there is not much that could stop him.

If anyone needed to replace Biden for some reason, it needs to be Andrew Cuomo.

[President Johnson]

Cuomo already tried to run, he was discouraged from running by Hillary

What? Cuomo never planned to run, he ruled it out over a year ago.

[President Johnson]

Yes he is finished

January 20, 2025 or January 20, 2029

[President Johnson]

Uncle Joe was on Jimmy Kimmel today:

I might be biased, but I don't know how you can't like him, even if you don't agree with everything.

[President Johnson]

Good, he needs to focus on California and expand the lead in Texas. But I hope his campaign doesn't neglect Iowa. Biden can win there if he fights and if he does, he gets into an excellent position for the nomination. Biden is a much stronger frontrunner due to his strength in the South and among black voters. Rudy didn't have such a firewall.

[President Johnson]

Oh man, I love this man! A truly presidential speech.