Pennsylvania

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What about the fact that the Democratic edge in registrations in Pennsylvania over Republicans is up by more than 500,000 from 2006 to 2008? Democrats outnumbered Republicans by 600,000 the day that Santorum lost by almost 20 points, and now it's up by 1.1 million.

We know that registration rough numbers often are deceiving, but does anyone want to argue that this number is meaningless because more than a half-million of those people are Hillary voters who are now going to vote for McCain--on top of all the Hillary-McCain voters who were registered Dems prior to 2006. (I'm sure there's some bad assumptions there, but you take the point. This number is a bad sign for Republicans, the only debate is how much of a bad sign it is.)

McCain either needs to cut pretty deeply with down market whites, or carriage trade seculars (RINO's now Dems since the Democrat primary has become meaningful now in Montco and envirions, or RINO's, or cafeteria RINO's), or a combo of the two, or it is curtains in PA. I keep saying that, but I can't get anyone yet, to say, you know, that is very perspicacious of you! 

I want to see some polling.  The Palin choice could play very well in PA, especially with "down market whites."  Conversely, it might not help enough.

Biden definitely outdoes Palin in PA though moreso in the East. 

I do this economics and the War will outdo the black-white issue in the end, but not entirely.

You really overstate Biden's appeal.

And other people are really overstating Palin's appeal. How about we just admit that running mates don't have that much effect leave it at that?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The problem is there is no logic behind that normally Democratic voters are expressing hatred for Obama in real life yet are lying in posters and saying they'll vote for him. So if the latter is happening, Obama is clearly making it up somewhere else.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The problem is there is no logic behind that normally Democratic voters are expressing hatred for Obama in real life yet are lying in posters and saying they'll vote for him. So if the latter is happening, Obama is clearly making it up somewhere else.

People don't lie to pollsters but tell their close friends and family how they really feel? Uh...

That really makes no sense as to why people would lie to pollsters in this case. Especially if it's just a bot.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

That really makes no sense as to why people would lie to pollsters in this case. Especially if it's just a bot.

Makes no sense? That people trust their friends and family with their real feelings and lying to someone because they don't want to be judged?

Judged by a bot?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

As someone who was born in Susquehanna County I will tell you that there is more to NE PA then Scranton and Wilkes-Barre. There are the rural surronding counties where I can tell you neither Obama nor Biden will float in these areas and McCain could do better than Bush.

Bush was a great candidate for that type of area while Kerry was horrid. McCain, not so great. Obama, not so much worse than Kerry.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

That really makes no sense as to why people would lie to pollsters in this case. Especially if it's just a bot.

Makes no sense? That people trust their friends and family with their real feelings and lying to someone because they don't want to be judged?

Judged by a bot?

Have all these polls been conducted by bots?

By the way, notice how Obama might lead McCain by a few but there are still tons of undecided voters here.

No but some have and there has been no noticeable difference in bot ones or not.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

That really makes no sense as to why people would lie to pollsters in this case. Especially if it's just a bot.

Makes no sense? That people trust their friends and family with their real feelings and lying to someone because they don't want to be judged?

Judged by a bot?

Have all these polls been conducted by bots?

By the way, notice how Obama might lead McCain by a few but there are still tons of undecided voters here.

No but some have and there has been no noticeable difference in bot ones or not.

The question is, if the average voter can tell the difference between a 'bot and a person.

The average voter is not mentally retarded.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

How come PA gets so much attention on this forum? It's unfair. Michigan should sue for equal time.

PA gets more attention in general. It may get more serious discussion because we have an unusual amount of people from the unusually awesome Commonwealth. 

Well, Mr. I'm from a super awesome state, I counter your Catholics, blue-coller whites and blue-haired lady's with Michigan's large Dutch Reformist population, some yuppers, and some racially charged blacks and whites from Flint.

I'm sorry...what was superior about your state?

Sane laws on alcohol sales.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

How come PA gets so much attention on this forum? It's unfair. Michigan should sue for equal time.

PA gets more attention in general. It may get more serious discussion because we have an unusual amount of people from the unusually awesome Commonwealth. 

Well, Mr. I'm from a super awesome state, I counter your Catholics, blue-coller whites and blue-haired lady's with Michigan's large Dutch Reformist population, some yuppers, and some racially charged blacks and whites from Flint.

I'm sorry...what was superior about your state?

Sane laws on alcohol sales.

Thank God it does. My city, I believe, has the most bars per-capita in the state.... or was it the nation?

I doubt it's the nation. Myrtle, MN has one bar per ever 33.5 people, and one bar per every 22.33 people if you include the non-alcoholic strip club.