Turns out some unions in St. Paul are f[inks]ing vile

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https://twitter.com/StarTribune/status/1546650546341154817

In lawsuits filed late last year, the St. Paul Police Federation, Firefighters Local 21 and St. Paul's Tri-Council said the city violated state labor laws and collective bargaining agreements by failing to negotiate the terms of the policy with unions.

I support unions other than police ones (which need to be outright banned) but not the non-police ones here. This is just vile like those disgusting healthcare worker ones in New York who thankfully got swatted down while trying to defend the anti-vaxxer trash infesting the New York healthcare system.

Hopefully the state Supreme Court overrules this and then St. Paul can CLEANSE ITSELF OF FILTH.

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"I like unions, unless they're police unions or they challenge a requirement to take a two-years-out-of-date flu shot to keep your job. Those unions need to be extirpated."

Democrats in 2022, everybody!

It's not a flu shot. Covid has nothing to do with the flu, completely different types of viruses.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

"I like unions, unless they're police unions or they challenge a requirement to take a two-years-out-of-date flu shot to keep your job. Those unions need to be extirpated."

Democrats in 2022, everybody!

It's not a flu shot. Covid has nothing to do with the flu, completely different types of viruses.

Wasn't my point.

But thanks for telling me that Covid isn't the flu. I've never heard that before. /s

You're the one who referred to it as the flu so if you knew that you're intentionally spreading misinformation.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

"I like unions, unless they're police unions or they challenge a requirement to take a two-years-out-of-date flu shot to keep your job. Those unions need to be extirpated."

Democrats in 2022, everybody!

It's not a flu shot. Covid has nothing to do with the flu, completely different types of viruses.

This isn't relevant. The question is whether or not we should accept employers having control over intimate healthcare decisions. I wouldn't want employers trying to mandate smoking cessation or other intrusive controls. I wouldn't want them to mandate treatments against depression either. COVID-19 is a virus so there's a negative externality if someone isn't vaccinated - someone's choice to not get vaccinated affects others. At the same time, in practice, the risk to others is pretty negligible so long as they are vaccinated so I'm not sure why we need these draconian measures.

There are other ways of encouraging vaccination, such as continuing to make vaccinations free, continued PR campaigns, and possible financial incentives, that don't involve putting a gun to the head of workers. I can see the merits of making police or firefighters getting vaccinated - they aren't any old workers - but, also, the possibility of even 1% of them deciding to quit is very, very costly.

Honestly it mostly comes down to that anti-vaxxers are all complete morons who think Joe Rogan, Alex Jones or stupid Boomer Facebook memes are valid sources of medical information and we're better off without them in public positions.

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I was going to muse if Derek Chauvin is vaccinated but then remembered the vaccine wasn't out yet when he committed his murder....but he totally strikes me as someone who wouldn't be.

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He vaccine while not designed for the current variant does provide some protection. If it didn't we'd see hospitals filling up and infection surging. That's not happening because even if people vaccinated catch it because the antibodies aren't effective, the T-cells are and it's basically just a cold. So this it's not a big threat to the healthcare system. But that's only true because so many people are vaccinated.

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Excellent news! Let’s hope they also fight against mask mandates for workers as well.

There are no mask mandates in Minnesota (outside of hospitals in areas that had them before Covid.)

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Excellent news! Let’s hope they also fight against mask mandates for workers as well.

There are no mask mandates in Minnesota (outside of hospitals in areas that had them before Covid.)

Employees can still mandate them in the workplace though, no?

If you mean "employers" yes but: 1-I don't know of any that do and 2-this decision only applies to public employers.