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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« on: November 11, 2019, 12:09:42 PM »

If I may just come in with the blistering hot take that 1) this was indeed a coup and that 2) the U.S. intelligence community probably only played an extremely marginal role, if any.

This. Let me also say the US role in the Pinochet coup is vastly overstated. That was planned and carried out almost exclusively by the Chilean military and the extent of the US's role is basically just having a vague idea that it was very likely to occur and not warning Allende about it.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2019, 03:13:22 PM »

On the right side of history with Pinochet, on the right side of history tonight.



The would-be Butcher of Britain never found a left-wing autocrat he didn't support.

Yes we get it, you think that military coups (very possibly followed by ethnic genocide) are cool.

Bolsonaro and Pinochet admirer too, I presume?

Pinochet was awful, just like all dictators. Bolsonaro has awful policies, although he's at least an elected official.

How do you feel about Morales' kidnapping of Jacob Ostreicher? Because I can guess how Corbyn feels about it.
Yes Bolsonaro was elected, just like Vladimir Putin, Recep Erdogan, Hugo Chavez, Robert Mugabe and Morales himself initially were. The issue is that he doesn't even really pretend to be a small "d" democrat, something most of those at least made an attempt to. Whether he remains a democratic leader is too much of a question mark.
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BRTD
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2019, 04:45:31 PM »

Hopefully, whoever the new rulers are, they keep The Church in mind.  And there is not biolence.

And what acts should they do while keeping the Church in mind? Because for now, they seem to be keeping it in mind:


If bigotry, racism and religious oppression is how the Church in wants to be kept in mind, then the Church is evil.

Is he Catholic or Evangelical?  Its an important distinction.

I'm wondering this too, especially since Pachamama is currently an intra-Catholic political shibboleth (and specifically an anti-Pope Francis shibboleth) for non-Morales-related reasons.

Camacho is Catholic - deeply Catholic -, but he's been skillful enough to garner a lot of Evangelical support and, from the looks of it, to mobilize religious-minded Bolivians in general through his use of religious rhetoric.

Good grief.
How is that surprising? Politicians like that are quite common, look at Rick Santorum or for a depressingly more successful example, Bolsonaro.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,508
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2019, 04:54:55 PM »

Watch very carefully which of your politicians are fine with a President illegally abolishing term limits and fixing an election.

A court can’t rule on a constitutional matter, that’s ridiculous. Also you’d think that netenhayu and Merkel were evil authoritarians for being in power for so long.
Um, what?  That's very very demonstrably not true...
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