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« on: November 29, 2018, 12:15:19 AM »
« edited: November 29, 2018, 12:47:38 AM by Voter #457 »

Bladen County had some bizarre irregularities in favor of Harris during the primary too (such as more absentees cast there than the entire rest if the district.) It's entirely possible that that Harris stole the nomination from Pittenger as well.
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2018, 12:45:30 AM »

Here's the results in the primary from Bladen County, LOL.



If its determined that Harris stole the primary then that's enough to invalidate the election and call a special.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2018, 07:49:17 PM »


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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2018, 10:09:18 PM »

I mean, this is one of those cases where, if allegations turn out to be sufficiently established to order a new election (which would seem to be the only reasonable remedy at this point), somebody better go to prison. Because the allegations are those of very serious electoral fraud, and it will not be sufficient to leave them underinvestigated. I mean, I generally agree that only very serious and proven misconduct should be grounds for annulling electoral results at this stage.  The allegations, clearly, raise to the former standard - but I want to see them proven in court.

Those tweets indicate that a woman is already being identified in photographs. So yeah they got a suspect. Of course she's probably just small time and should plead to turn in the real villains.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2018, 11:05:27 AM »


These disingenuous posts, with their repetition, are crossing the line into trolling. I suggest you reconsider.

If people see trolling behavior on these threads, please report to the mods.
Since when is stating a fact trolling. Even if you invalidate every single absentee ballot from Bladen County Harris still wins. The people of the ninth clearly chose Harris lol, that’s not trolling.

Of course, this should still be investigated and if someone committed fraud they should be thrown in jail. But the county is just too small to have had an impact on this race’s outcome.

Not true in the primary. Harris may not even be a legitimate nominee.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2018, 02:44:43 PM »

Its also possible the Democratic House just refuses to seat Harris and calls for special election.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2018, 04:30:43 PM »

Mind you if its determined that Harris was involved in fraud but that it wasn't enough to affect the outcome the latter part is irrelevant-Harris should be going to jail, not Congress. The candidate going to jail seems like a valid reason to not seat him.
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2018, 07:25:10 PM »


Cooper appoints someone.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2018, 02:03:03 PM »

Mind you what's being described as happening here would be illegal even in California.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2018, 04:54:47 PM »

It's been reported from knowledgeable sources in NC that if the NCSBE calls a new election, it will be a general election with the same candidates (Harris, McCready, and the Libertarian).

What if Harris goes to jail?
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2018, 03:10:52 PM »



Mark Harris is less opposed to a new election than Bagel.
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2018, 05:24:44 PM »

Such a "deal" would also be unconstitutional.
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2018, 09:00:52 PM »

NC BoE dissolved by Wake County court: https://www.wcnc.com/mobile/article/news/politics/wake-county-superior-court-rules-that-nc-board-of-elections-to-dissolve-amid-district-9-investigation/275-07a600fc-2ced-404e-8d6e-2c86770a8286
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2018, 09:12:35 AM »
« Edited: December 28, 2018, 09:17:22 AM by Voter #457 »


Basically there was a suit on this dating back to October, do before this, but it kept getting stayed. The court says they can't stay it further. Cooper intends to appeal though.

Without the BoE there's kind of a limbo over who'd investigate or even certify the results. I read somewhere that Cooper or the Attorney General (also a Democrat) could order an investigation but that would only be in regards to the criminsl charges involved. Actually resolving the race is tricky.

Assuming Cooper's appeal fails, here's the twist: he can still appoint a new board...but under that bill the legislature just passed over his veto it wouldn't be seated until January 31. Thus leaving this in total limbo and the seat vacant until then.
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2018, 10:10:50 PM »

That's not even legal.
https://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/statutes/statutelookup.pl?statute=163A-721

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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2018, 06:36:21 PM »

Translation: he's already landed a lobbyist gig with at least five times the salary.
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