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Question: Should Cornwall receive home nation status?
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« on: August 12, 2005, 10:59:02 AM »

Home nation status is the same as England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. As of now, Cornwall is considered no different from the rest of England. But when most people there say "England" they really mean England outside of Cornwall, they used to have their own language, they are mostly ethnically Celtic. It's quite similar to Wales in most ways. So I would support home nation status for Cornwall.
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2005, 11:15:50 AM »

This is like asking if the Isle of Man or the Channel Islands should receive home nation status.

Actually those territories are not considered part of the UK but rather "crown dependencies" which basically makes them equivalent to a colony. They are like Puerto Rico.
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2005, 12:37:19 PM »

There is such a thing, though its incorrect to say that the people of Cornwall are mostly ethnically Celtic. Celtic essentially refers to those who originally occupied England, and continued to be the mainstay of the populus until the fall of the Roman Empire, when the Anglo-Saxons came, saw and conquered. The Celtic people were then pushed into the extremities of the island, Cornwall and Scotland mostly.

That's basically what I meant by saying like Wales. Wales was also oen fo the places where the Anglo-Saxons pushed the original inhabitants. Where the Anglo-Saxons settled outside of Cornwall is now modern day England.

And I know the language is dead now, but the same is basically true of Welsh, Gaelic and Irish. There are revival attempts of course, but no one really speaks those today as their main native tongue.

They're not "colonies." They have complete domestic self-government; the United Kingdom is only responsible for defense and foreign affairs.

Well the same is also true of territories considered colonies, Greenland for example. Perhaps a better analogy though would be psuedo-nations like Liechenstein and Monaco, only not officially independent.
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2005, 03:06:29 PM »

I never knew Jones, Lloyd and Davies were all Welsh names. Although Lloyd does sound pretty Welsh now that I think of it.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2005, 04:02:00 PM »

I knew that Ireland was inhabited long before the Celtic invasion but I assume that the original inhabitants were assimilated just like pretty much every other original inhabitant of Europe except the Basques. Of course that would explain red hair being much less common in Ireland.
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