What international parties do you support on the other side of the spectrum?

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There's a lot of developing and newly democratic (or not quite there yet) countries where I would support the pro-market liberals because the socialists are either despots or crazy nationalists or both. Thailand as recently debated is an example. There was also that recent incident in Ivory Coast (amusingly Sen. Inhofe supported the socialist ousted president, lol). In Northern Ireland I would vote for Alliance today, though it's a huge stretch to call them a "conservative" party even if their sole MP is now in coalition with the Tories (as they are affiliated with the Lib Dems), and might've supported UUP in the past. I'd like to support someone against Ortega in Nicaragua this year because his foreign policy has been horrible and I don't like how he's changing election laws for his personal gain, but not if the opposition nominates someone supportive of death squads/the Contras/a crazy right-winger.

Slovakia is probably the most "pure" example where I would've voted for the center-right in the last election, just because the old center-left party was in coalition with some pretty awful fascists.

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The FDP is to the right of the CDU these days anyway...

The FDP is very socially liberal and that is more important to me than anything else. It isn't as if they would cut everything like Republicans are trying to. I can't say how I'd truly feel unless I lived in Germany I suppose.

The FDP originally voted against legalizing same-sex unions back in 2000.

Of course, we don't really have "social issues" here anymore, so it doesn't matter.

The CDU/CSU aren't against abortion? Kind of weird.

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The Labor Party in Israel.

They're basically a right-wing warmongering party, so....

The Peretz party is now a bunch of right wing warmongers?  If so, I need to keep up more I guess.

How about Hungary? The right consists of some extreme nationalists and their allies are essentially out and out fascists, and they are also extreme protectionists. The Socialist Party on the other hand is quite moderate and are free traders.

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Hm, I do right in Sweden.

So, where do I back the left?

US

LOL no. You just say you do and then go ahead and endorse Republicans for just about every office (like McCain, and just about every Republican for statewide office in my state, including one who lost by 20 points and only won die-hard GOP areas.)

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OK Gustaf I have voted in probably around 25 partisan elections (rough estimate, but I've voted in 5 major elections since 2002, and an average of 5 partisan offices each election sounds in the ballpark.) I've voted for a Democrat in every single one of them. So by your logic if I had instead voted for 13 Democrats and 12 Republicans, I'd still be a Democratic voter?

My big thing is that you voted for someone who got absolutely destroyed here. That's like a "strong Republican" voting for Mondale. Hell it even applies to McCain, who only won traditionally Democratic areas in the rural south and Appalachia for fairly obvious reasons.

And Lieberman...lol

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OK Gustaf I have voted in probably around 25 partisan elections (rough estimate, but I've voted in 5 major elections since 2002, and an average of 5 partisan offices each election sounds in the ballpark.) I've voted for a Democrat in every single one of them. So by your logic if I had instead voted for 13 Democrats and 12 Republicans, I'd still be a Democratic voter?

My big thing is that you voted for someone who got absolutely destroyed here. That's like a "strong Republican" voting for Mondale. Hell it even applies to McCain, who only won traditionally Democratic areas in the rural south and Appalachia for fairly obvious reasons.

And Lieberman...lol

I never said I was a strong Democrat, only that I was a Democrat. And of course, I did not support 13 Dems v 12 Reps. I supported only a narrow majority of Democrats, but several of the others were independents. And in the gubernatorial races I supported the Democrat in two thirds of the cases.

I'm also amused that supporting a former VP candidate for the Democrats apparently now made me a Republican. Who knew?

But please explain how supporting Democrats more often than Republicans makes me a Republican. I'm all ears.

I never said you were a Republican. I am saying you are not a Democrat. A 13/12 split seems like the definition of a swing voter to me, not really in either party. Your intended voting is also well to the right of the median in Minnesota, so it's kind be kind of silly to claim to be a Democrat here, which is also a swing state.

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OK Gustaf I have voted in probably around 25 partisan elections (rough estimate, but I've voted in 5 major elections since 2002, and an average of 5 partisan offices each election sounds in the ballpark.) I've voted for a Democrat in every single one of them. So by your logic if I had instead voted for 13 Democrats and 12 Republicans, I'd still be a Democratic voter?

My big thing is that you voted for someone who got absolutely destroyed here. That's like a "strong Republican" voting for Mondale. Hell it even applies to McCain, who only won traditionally Democratic areas in the rural south and Appalachia for fairly obvious reasons.

And Lieberman...lol

I never said I was a strong Democrat, only that I was a Democrat. And of course, I did not support 13 Dems v 12 Reps. I supported only a narrow majority of Democrats, but several of the others were independents. And in the gubernatorial races I supported the Democrat in two thirds of the cases.

I'm also amused that supporting a former VP candidate for the Democrats apparently now made me a Republican. Who knew?

But please explain how supporting Democrats more often than Republicans makes me a Republican. I'm all ears.

I never said you were a Republican. I am saying you are not a Democrat. A 13/12 split seems like the definition of a swing voter to me, not really in either party. Your intended voting is also well to the right of the median in Minnesota, so it's kind be kind of silly to claim to be a Democrat here, which is also a swing state.

But I just said that it's not a 13-12 split!

I endorsed 17 Democrats for senate in 2006 and 12 Republicans. For governor it was 24-9. So, overall that's 41 Democrats versus 21 Republicans. Now, I'm beginning to realize that math and logic are not your strongest suits so I will give you the calculation: that's supporting Democrats about twice as often as Republicans.

Now, I never claimed to be a far-left Democrat or a partisan hack. I'm perfectly content with leaving the position as silly hack to you. But I don't see by what right you can define me as not a Democrat supporter when it's the party I support more often.

And claiming to be a Democrat in Minnesota is not really what I'm doing...nor does that even make any sense.

And really even a 2:1 ratio doesn't mean much in the US. That'd be like me averaging voting for 1-2 Republicans every election. On the other hand around 75% of people simply in my precinct vote for no one but Democrats every year (kind of an estimation as calculating who the split ticketers are isn't easy, but it has to be around that figure.) That's not even caucus voters or Democratic primary voters, just every voter in my area.

Also the raw numbers aren't really as important as comparing you to the median voter. On that map I see you endorsed two Democrats who lost (Arizona and Tennessee). You however endorsed four Republicans who lost, three of who were destroyed in landslides and the one who wasn't still lost by almost double digits. What I still can not comprehend is why you endorsed someone in my state who was a complete party line voter who wouldn't agree with a Democratic-leaning voter on ANYTHING and lost all but hardcore GOP areas. Almost no swing voters voted for him, much less Democrats. So safe to say if you supported him, you aren't very loyal to the Democratic party, nor do you agree with it. So your endorsement record is still the right of voters in most states. You are to the right of the median Minnesota voter, and would be in just about any state besides ultra-conservative ones in the west and south. You didn't even support the Democratic Party's presidential candidate in an election he won by a very wide margin. How many Republicans supported Dukakis in 1988? None of those point to a Democratic voter, or even Democratic-leaning voter. Does it make you a Republican either? No, but that is not the question.