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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« on: June 09, 2011, 11:01:07 AM »

Really the only prominent Republican of the last century who I can imagine as a Liberal would be Eisenhower

Does Lincoln Chafee count? How about Gerald Ford? Or Rockefeller?
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BRTD
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 11:28:43 PM »

Franken would unquestionably be a Liberal. He'd frequently piss off the party leadership and attack them from the right, and would no doubt belong to the provincial NDP in British Columbia, but demographically he is as Liberal as it gets. Or would've been, he'd be leaving that sinking ship after the last election.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 11:39:58 PM »

This is what Minnesota would look like:



Well assuming there was IRV or something, due to vote splitting the Conservatives would win just about every county with FPTP, everything except the Twin Cities and Iron Range counties.

That's also largely a guess in a lot of cases, there's some quirky voting patterns in Canada that are tough to put in an American context (No one would consider Newfoundland to be a stronghold for the type of American politicians the Liberals are associated with for example.) Also that's for elections up until last, where just about all the red counties would flip orange except for that continuous band in southeastern Minnesota, Olmsted might flip back to Conservative as it would've voted for generations. That belt running from Freeborn to the border would probably be one of the last Liberal areas to drop, they're not voting Conservative because the part is made up of religious fanatic and hyper-capitalist nutjobs and dominated by the exurbs and don't want to vote NDP because it's mostly urban (small l) liberals and miners from far away who are out of touch with them. They'd flip NDP in the event of the Liberals actually folding though.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,458
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2011, 12:27:06 AM »

Hmm. I would've gathered that the NDP would be quite strong in Minnesota.

That map is kind of misleading, just like the Democratic vs. Republican map most of those blue counties aren't very populated. Hennepin would be close between the NDP and Liberals too. But I don't see much reason for those agrian counties to vote NDP, there simply isn't any such NDP-voting area in Canada.

Certainly not in Montana like Xahar suggested.

It makes sense if you take note of who the people who are actually Democrats in Montana are.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2011, 11:19:41 AM »

LOLIdaho
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,458
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2011, 11:53:41 AM »

They won't like the Conservatives for the same reasons they don't like the Republicans, and they wouldn't like the NDP because they'd be the party of urban small l liberals and union members.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,458
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2011, 05:04:05 PM »

I didn't think West Virginia as Liberal is that ridiculous considering that Newfoundland is basically Canada's West Virginia. Of course fishing is not mining and it's a bit of a stretch to assume WV would have the same tradition.

But Idaho as NDP? I can't think of any logical justification for that at all. Especially as Alberta is basically Canada's Idaho + oil industry (seriously, look at a map. The similarities in all states/provinces don't exactly end abruptly at the border.)
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