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President Tyrion
TyrionTheImperialist
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« on: January 04, 2014, 05:43:05 PM »

I'll accept the nomination, I suppose.
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President Tyrion
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2014, 05:50:56 AM »

Senator Tyrion, how knowledgeable would you say you are of OSPR? What are some specific changes you would like to see in it?

Well, I'd say there's no possible way I'm as experienced as Yankee. I'm two months into my first term, and Yankee has been around, what, 20 times as long? With that said, I do believe I can handle the duty, and I like to figure I'm enough of a rules maven to keep up. Naturally, I've made mistakes, but I think, most importantly, I'm active enough to check my work, keep myself in line, and continue to improve while keeping the Senate moving.

Changes I'd consider:
1. "Flex"ing the slot requirements in order to give additional slots to PPT and Presidential discretion, by eliminating the veto override slot and cutting out foreign policy slot(s). This is something I suggested earlier but didn't gain much traction.

2. I'd double the maximum debate time requirement before an injunction is required for Presidential appointments, while allowing the PPT to commence a final vote at any time once debate has ceased for 24 hours.

3. I'd correct a constitutional issue with Article 1, Section 3, Clause 4, the one that enables redrafts, by clarifying the wording. As it currently stands, one might interpret the first and second halves of the clause to be in contradiction. Yankee has to this point interpreted in the manner that the second half of the clause suggests, but not the first, which I agree with. That's not an OSPR issue, technically, but it does change the way the Senate is run, so I thought I'd mention it.
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President Tyrion
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2014, 12:19:41 AM »

Would you deal wtih the overrides off the slots, like we have the redrafts then?

The OSPR doesn't really say anthing with regards to the Redrafts. Unlike with the expulsion text in the Constitution though, the constitution includes the process of how to do redrafts. PReviously, beforewe added the Article on Explusions to the OSPR there was no effective way to proceed with it since the Constitution just says 2/3rds vote.

As for the discrepancy you refer I never noticed such really since the Constitution explicitly states the President shall have x in y conditions. My predecessors never mentioned it, nor did BK and he was all about finding such loopholes (so he could abuse them of course. Wink).

In terms of the FP slot, I could go for allowing it to be used for none such stuff if there are no Foreign policy or military related stuff in the queue, but I would prefer to keep at least one, especially now that we have two executive slots and two PPT slots.

Yeah, I'd like to treat overrides like we treat redrafts currently, but I'd also be open to making an explicit process for redrafts in the OSPR, since it's probably worth delineating the whole process in our personal rulebook.

I'd be fine with leaving one FP slot guaranteed.
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President Tyrion
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2014, 08:39:37 PM »

1. Tyrion
2. Yankee

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President Tyrion
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2014, 03:30:26 PM »

On the assumption that Matt will vote for Yankee, I'm switching my vote:

1. Yankee
2. Tyrion

Let's get this party started.
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President Tyrion
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2014, 08:39:55 PM »

To be fair, I know Senator X wanted to do the same thing for efficiency's sake, and there's really no reason to hold up a foregone result.

Upwards and onwords, fellas! We have a region to save, after all!
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