When will the Libertarians gain power?

[ElectionsGuy]

Libertarians have a real voice with young white men, that's about it. I say they will never gain power because their message just won't sell with anybody else. Specifically the Libertarian Party is way too ideological, disaffecting the republicans and democrats who are either fed up with their parties or have libertarian leanings. There has to be a broad liberty movement, and Rand Paul is the best thing we have right now in the Senate (Amash and Massie in the house), there has to be a general consensus about the role of government, not "taxes are theft" or "cut the budget by 60%".

[ElectionsGuy]

The Libertarians might get past 5% in an election one year but the Republicans will get their sh*t together and fix themselves.

OK, please. The Libertarian movement is not derived out of the Republican Party, that will never be the case. They are explicitly running against the republicans on 50-60% of issues.

[ElectionsGuy]

The Libertarians might get past 5% in an election one year but the Republicans will get their sh*t together and fix themselves.

OK, please. The Libertarian movement is not derived out of the Republican Party, that will never be the case. They are explicitly running against the republicans on 50-60% of issues.

I agree that they are fundamentally different ideologically. However, this is irrelevant. It's about how they will be perceived. Their fiscal conservatism will attract dissatisfied Republicans more than it will ever attract Democrats.

I tend to agree with that, but its still not a movement a conservative will get themselves into if they know what its all about. Anti-NSA spying, Anti-Patriot Act, Anti-racial profiling, non-interventionism, and things like that can attract left leaning people. We're also against special handouts to billionaires and corporations. These are important issues to many libertarians, its not only fiscal issues and governing style that matters.

Sorry if it seemed like I was mad at you or something in the first response - I wasn't.