COVID-19 Megathread 4: Grandma Got Run Over by the Dow Jones

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That HD can't sell its full inventory. I understand the rationale you're laying out but the policy still seems weirdly invasive to me.

In part 2 or 3 someone brought up the example that Gamestop has to close but you can just go to Walmart and buy a video game. Something about that doesn't sit right with me either. Presumably if they close off significant parts of the stores there will be fewer customers coming in and fewer employees that have to come into work, which is also the rationale behind asking non-essential businesses to close. The fairness, or lack thereof, is just another way of looking at it.

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https://twitter.com/AP/status/1249007008264663042

America first?

Okay, Hillary.

Population size....what a stupid comparison.

20,000 deaths should not be watered down because we have a large country.

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Well the historians who rank Presidents always have him in the bottom 5, including the conservative ones. So there's that.

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I’m sure this will go over well with the public opinion.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1249487471630381056?s=21

I took his tweet to mean that Fauci's comments had been misrepresented by the media. They weren't, but he always says this crap.

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It’s mutating, but not abnormally fast. It’s mutating slower than influenza does.

Is it mutating more slowly than influenza, or evolving more slowly than influenza? It could be mutating at the same rate, and the ones with adaptations to a hypothetical vaccine are dying out. They could thrive when such a vaccine comes out.

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In the vast majority of cases where DNA or RNA mutates, it is a debilitating mutation.

I thought most mutations basically have no effect.

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Very glad to hear you're turning the corner Penn!

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249712413219397632

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I never watch Trump's lie-rallies. What's making this one special?

He aired a long campaign style video, trying to make the argument that he was ahead of the curve in his Coronavirus response.

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We spent trillions of dollars fighting a war that stemmed from 9/11. We did that because we "never again" wanted to lose 3,000 lives in a terrorist attack. We could have kept the money for tax cuts, infrastructure, whatever you want; and lived with the possibility that another big terrorist attack could happen. But basically everyone supported going to war. So how is this different? Because the people dying will mostly be old? Because we won't lose any buildings? Because we weren't shocked to our core in an instant? Or because you're worried it will be a lot more than 2 trillion lost? Something's different.

We've already eclipsed the 9/11 death toll by a factor of 8!

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Is this really necessary?  NYS has already peaked in terms of deaths/new infections, and the added benefit of masks is extremely marginal at best.

We peaked because of social distancing, not because the virus had infected too many people already to keep its momentum up. Now we want to end the social distancing, but there's plenty of fuel still available for it to restart the exponential growth. All it takes is one untracked individual to spark another outbreak. Masks will help prevent this.

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Well they might be sure the officials believe that, but that doesn't necessarily mean it happened that way.

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I have my doubts about this virus being a bioweapon or even being from a laboratory.
Firstly, while bats are likely the original source of the virus, pangolins are a suspected vector for the virus which would help explain how it spread to humans. Pangolin meat is unfortunately popular (relatively) in China, and pangolin scales are peddled as medicine. Also, Hubei is a hub for the illegal pangolin trade.
US intelligence also doesn’t seem to buy into the lab-created idea.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/14/covid-19-origin-lab-general-mark-milley

I think it’s more likely that some a***ole who was involved in the pangolin trade got infected with a slightly mutated version (which would become Covid) and spread it to other people unknowingly. It’s even possible this hypothetical patient 0 was asymptomatic which would further spread. This guy may have not even been connected to the Huanan Seafood Market, as it’s believed this virus has been spreading since late November. It’s entirely possible Huanan Seafood market just happened to be the first large cluster.
It’s not impossible it was lab-created, but it still seems unlikely.

Maybe I'm missing something, but from reading the stories on Fox and CNN, it seems the officials think it may have made the jump to humans while being studied in a lab, but not that it was engineered.

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Why is MSNBC reporting 32,000 deaths but here and Worldometers have it 28,000? That's the biggest discrepancy I've seen yet.

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These people are idiots. Downright idiots.

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1250609090692362240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw...

I listened to the interview. It doesn't sound like he's saying anything different than people in this thread are. I appreciate his honesty on that.

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https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1250615211439996928

Her family should pick a home and stick with it unless there's an emergency.

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That population skewed older than average which would almost certainly cause a higher mortality rate. Also it’s important to note that the patients on the cruise ship may have been exposed to higher initial viral load as compared to the general population (outside of hospitals)
Taking this into account, I still would believe the true mortality rate is around 1%.

What does the true mortality rate even mean? It always has qualifications attached to it.

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• Cases: 677,570 (+33,481 | Δ Change: ↑10.85% | Σ Increase: ↑5.20%)
• Deaths: 34,617 (+6,088 | Δ Change: ↑145.29% | Σ Increase: ↑21.34%)

Wow, just shy of our all time cases high. At best we're plateauing at a high level.

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What is the point of re-opening the beaches now if the state is under a stay at home order until the end of the month?

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COVID incubation period is 5 days? That's not bad. Originally they were going crazy thinking the incubation period average was like 15 days.

The median is 5 days, so half are more than 5 days, out to 14 when it has dropped off to nothing.

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Yeah a week ago is was conceivable but now it seems extremely unlikely. Especially since new cases are hovering around peak.

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251912553602654214