Lending more credibility to Keystone Phil's anecdotes.

[J. J.]

I'll just use this thread for random anecdotal evidence...

I visited my Grandparents tonight. My Grandmother was telling me about a certain someone she is friendly with who stopped to talk to her at a local diner. All I'll say about this certain someone is that he or she is a major Democratic ward leader here in the NE Philly and this person also holds elected office.

The person asked my Grandmother, "So be honest. Who do you want?" My Grandmother told her that she's for McCain. The Democratic ward leader responded, "I wish there were more people like you."

Interesting. Anecdotal evidence that Dem ward leaders in North Philly wanted to make a deal with the McCain campaign, hoping to be kingmakers by delivering Dem votes for him, but there weren't enough people like your grandmother to make it work. Sounds like that guy was happy to find someone who agreed with him and had heard "Obama" too many times.

I all honesty, I'm hearing the exact same things that Phil is hearing.

The question is, will Obama be back in PA?

[J. J.]

Okay, I saw something like that too in North Phila.  They were out yesterday and today.  The Caucasian populating of my neighborhood quadrupled during that time.  This is a heavily Democratic and black area.   They are not using the locals.

[J. J.]

Okay, I saw something like that too in North Phila.  They were out yesterday and today.  The Caucasian populating of my neighborhood quadrupled during that time.  This is a heavily Democratic and black area.   They are not using the locals.

J.J., in all honesty, that doesn't matter there. At all. Obama is going to have insane turnout in North Philly and the other black areas. Go to the neighborhood immediately south of Temple. Almost literally every house has at least one Obama sign on their front lawn or in their window.

Those people that vote will, but how many people will vote?  Committee people can turn out some votes, and they are not on board.

[J. J.]

Okay, I saw something like that too in North Phila.  They were out yesterday and today.  The Caucasian populating of my neighborhood quadrupled during that time.  This is a heavily Democratic and black area.   They are not using the locals.

J.J., in all honesty, that doesn't matter there. At all. Obama is going to have insane turnout in North Philly and the other black areas. Go to the neighborhood immediately south of Temple. Almost literally every house has at least one Obama sign on their front lawn or in their window.

Those people that vote will, but how many people will vote?  Committee people can turn out some votes, and they are not on board.

The black committee people will be individually invested in seeing Obama win. It's a totally different story from their white colleagues.

I'm not entirely sure.  No one likes getting dissed.  Not making the payoffs is being dissed.

Obama has sent out an urgent e-mail for volunteers in PA.

I hope to have turnout numbers by 3:00 PM.

[J. J.]

I wonder if J. J. does what some of my co-workers do for logging cases, keep a list of commonly used phrases or case summaries on desktop and just copy and paste them in when necessary. He basically does the same thing with his posting (the 3:00 PM thing here, that "after you the deluge" thing, "Sweet Sarah Palin" a few months ago, the FL and MI spam back during the primaries, etc.) Of course my co-workers are just saving time while he's wasting since I doubt anyone takes it seriously.

No, the "Sweet Sarah Palin," BTW was not complementary.

Weren't you one of those numerous people talking about "landslide" territory and the "double" digit lead in PA? 

I did a robo-call telling me where to vote today, from the Obama Campaign (well, it was paid for by Democratic State Committee).  I am saying that the local party people seen to be going out of their way not to campaign for Obama.  I still expect a high turnout in my immediate are and a high Obama vote, but using the locals can run up the numbers.

[J. J.]

I wonder if J. J. does what some of my co-workers do for logging cases, keep a list of commonly used phrases or case summaries on desktop and just copy and paste them in when necessary. He basically does the same thing with his posting (the 3:00 PM thing here, that "after you the deluge" thing, "Sweet Sarah Palin" a few months ago, the FL and MI spam back during the primaries, etc.) Of course my co-workers are just saving time while he's wasting since I doubt anyone takes it seriously.

No, the "Sweet Sarah Palin," BTW was not complementary.

I never said it was. In your typical fashion you completely ignored the point of my post by cherry-picking a minor sub-point.

It's not minor, since I was referring to something that I thought was cynical in the McCain campaign.

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Not in relation to PA, but the "landslide" territory, natyionally.  Do you think the race has tightened in both PA and the US in general?

[J. J.]

Here's some counter-anecdotal evidence.

The woman I just canvassed with has a son who lives in Pennsylvania in Bryn Athyn, basically a religious Swedenborgian community as her family is Swedenborgian, even though he like all of her kids is a Democrat. This place usually votes very Republican since they tend to be much more socially conservative than the Swedenborgians here. But he claims many of them are now leaning toward Obama and much more Democratic.

OMG ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE!

Actually, in the Swedenborgian community, that is not too uncommon.  At least one of the branches has a majority of the members in South Africa and Lesotho.  The South African group is predominantly Zulu (they are super nice people, too) and there are many contacts.  I could see then very easily voting for someone with African ancestry.   

[J. J.]

Phil, I'm seeing the same stuff.  The party types are not behind Obama in my 95% black ward.  What difference will that make?  Not a heck of a lot; Obama will the ward between 95% and 98%.  It might cost a few points of turnout.

[J. J.]

Phil, I'm seeing the same stuff.  The party types are not behind Obama in my 95% black ward.  What difference will that make?  Not a heck of a lot; Obama will the ward between 95% and 98%.  It might cost a few points of turnout.

Did the Obama campaign agree to give the ward leaders street money?

I mention the refrigerator magnet.  It says "Presidential election" but doesn't say who the candidate is.