"NASA photo analyst: Bush wore a device during debate"

[J. J.]

I doesn't exactly look like an earpiece either. 

[J. J.]

That branches? 

Please check under you bed for Islamist elves.

[J. J.]

GiantSaguaro, please watch you language.

Obviously, attaching something to Bush's back isn't going to feed anything into his ears.  These people like khirkboob are just part of the loony left, whose brains exist in some sort of paranoid fantasy land.  The world is passing them by.

[J. J.]

Good, we can call you "boob," for short.

[J. J.]

That's fine it will remind me that I'm debating with 3rd graders.

Talking to yourself again 'boob? :-)

You honestly cannot be stupid enough to believe that a wrinkle under a coat translates into someone broadcasting Bush the answers.

[J. J.]

I really don't think it was. I've said it before when this subject first came up that I don't think the president would be stupid enough to think that he could cheat in a national debate.  I'm sure he has used an ear piece to give speeches before, why not, with as much as a president has to say and do it makes sense but I don't think he was dependant on it and I don't think he used it in the speech.  All I said on this thread was that in this "NASA" picture it looks like wires and it does.  Does it mean that it is wires, No, I was just commenting.  And please JJ I just don't like the asinine vitriol of petty insults.  If you need to call me anything call me Tom, thats my name.  And I am not your enemy.  I want to make this country better, same as you do and the only way that we are ever going to do that is if we work it out together.

You said you liked 'boob.  I never said you were my enemy. 

I do have discussions with many Democrats on this site that look at the posts honestly and don't attempt to spin.  I do not respond to them as I do to you.  If you wish to troll, expect it.

If, on the other hand, you wish to discuss things cogently, even though we disagree, I will call you Tom.

If you decide to post somethings, repeatedly, like this nonsense, 'boob you will be.  And, BTW, if I post something stupid like that, you can make fun of me.

[J. J.]

Bush was wired.  He is a puppet, with some very bad people behind him pulling the strings.  The bulge is Karl Roves icy, evil fingers pushing out of his back.  Rove is reaching up Bush from behind and trying to make his mouth move with his fingers, but he couldn't reach far enough.  If Rove went on a diet this scandel never would have broken.

You can actually hear Bush speaking to the person in his ear at one point.  He says "Let me finish."  in the middle of a statement, to no one in particular, when no one is interrupting him in any way.  He is trying to get the person (Rove) who is in his ear to shut up for a second so that he can think and finish his statement.

It's totally obvious that he is talking to the person who is feeding him lines, telling them to "Let him finish" before feeding him more lines.


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Freedumb[/i]burns, this mythical. 

Please explain how Bush was able to hear the commends without an earpiece.  Was it invisible?  Did tiny fairies relay the messages from his back to ear?

[J. J.]

Bush was wired.  He is a puppet, with some very bad people behind him pulling the strings.  The bulge is Karl Roves icy, evil fingers pushing out of his back.  Rove is reaching up Bush from behind and trying to make his mouth move with his fingers, but he couldn't reach far enough.  If Rove went on a diet this scandel never would have broken.

You can actually hear Bush speaking to the person in his ear at one point.  He says "Let me finish."  in the middle of a statement, to no one in particular, when no one is interrupting him in any way.  He is trying to get the person (Rove) who is in his ear to shut up for a second so that he can think and finish his statement.

It's totally obvious that he is talking to the person who is feeding him lines, telling them to "Let him finish" before feeding him more lines.


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Freedumb[/i]burns, this mythical. 

Please explain how Bush was able to hear the commends without an earpiece.  Was it invisible?  Did tiny fairies relay the messages from his back to ear?

Your ability to think objectively is mythical.


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I do think objectively, and look for little details like, oh, logic, evidence, fact.  Sometime, when you are mentally competent, you try it.  Reality can be fun, though I get the feeling you'll never know.

[J. J.]

Bush was wired.  He is a puppet, with some very bad people behind him pulling the strings.  The bulge is Karl Roves icy, evil fingers pushing out of his back.  Rove is reaching up Bush from behind and trying to make his mouth move with his fingers, but he couldn't reach far enough.  If Rove went on a diet this scandel never would have broken.

You can actually hear Bush speaking to the person in his ear at one point.  He says "Let me finish."  in the middle of a statement, to no one in particular, when no one is interrupting him in any way.  He is trying to get the person (Rove) who is in his ear to shut up for a second so that he can think and finish his statement.

It's totally obvious that he is talking to the person who is feeding him lines, telling them to "Let him finish" before feeding him more lines.


freedomburns


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Freedumb[/i]burns, this mythical. 

Please explain how Bush was able to hear the commends without an earpiece.  Was it invisible?  Did tiny fairies relay the messages from his back to ear?

Your ability to think objectively is mythical.


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I do think objectively, and look for little details like, oh, logic, evidence, fact.  Sometime, when you are mentally competent, you try it.  Reality can be fun, though I get the feeling you'll never know.

LOL.  Nice post.  Child.


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Freedumbburns,  I've ask this question of another poster (and I think I got an honest answer), so I'm going to ask you.  Do you really believe the moronic things you post, or are just that partizan?

[J. J.]

1.  My first guess is that it is an optical illusion, basically the way that the light hit the back of his jacket.  If not, there should be other frames that would show the "shape."

2.  My second guess is that it's a bullet proof vest, but there should be other frames giving a hint that it's there.

[J. J.]

No, I don't really believe that the bulge is from Karl Rove's attempt to move Bush's mouth with his fingers like a rpuppet.

Other than that, as much as it pains me to say this to someone as closed-minded and judgemental as yourself, yes.  I do have a strong personal point of view on the issues and I stand behind my statements.  I will back them up with facts and citations if I am pressed to do so.

Once in a while, I post provacative things that are over the top just to get a reaction, but they are mostly just extentions of personal beliefs that have been taken a couple of steps further. 

I do it to show certain people that there are intelligent, articulate people here that study the issues as though they were paid for it, and that may hold diametrically oposing viewpoints to their own.  If that makes one person pause and reconsider a Republico-fascist (sorry) position, then my goal has been accomplished.

If I am confrontational, that is just to keep things lively and interesting.  It should not be taken seriously.  I actually highly value intelligent debate from opposing viewpoints.  Debate helps one to refine and hash out a viable position on the issues of the day.   


freedomburns

I have no objection to holding different political views, and, as I've pointed out, I do have serious discussion with people that do not share my views.  I do not treat them as I treat you.  They post honestly, cogently, and don't attempt to spin.  I will treat you the same way, if you do the same.  If you attempt to troll, as you have, expect it.

[J. J.]

You think a scrolling bold-type signature calling Kerry intellectually dishonest is not trolling?

Hmm, maybe it is time to change up my signature rather than come across as a hypocrite here.

As long as you continue with your extreme partisanship, I intend to defend the other side, that I am sympathetic with even though I am not a member.

I'd prefer to keep the childish name calling to a minimum as well, but like you, I will respond in kind.  Sure, it's juvenile sometimes, but there are some things that demand a response and that it is hard to just let lay.


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Yes, mine does serve as a reminder; I do site numreous examples where Kerry is intellectually honest and in one case I called him "intellectually honest."  I would not call that "extreme partizanship."  You have noticed some of my comments on Kerry's "dishonorable" discharge, namely that he probably was honorably discharged.  Or you may have noted my opinion that sexual preference was not completely a choice, and the statements that the proposed amendments did not make civil unions illegal.  It always interests me how the Left chooses to believe things and not look at the facts.

I have noticed other people's signature, such as yours, but not limited to it, that run negative comments about both Bush and Kerry.  Feel free to keep yours up.

What you call "juvenile," I refer to as sarcasm.  Yours is met with mine; if you wither under superior firepower, so be it.  If that annoys you, don't do it and I won't.  My sarcasm is generally reserved for people who use it.  I cannot recall a single sarcastic remark that I made to Shira, for example, who is partizan.

Now, if you can't do it, my only advice is, don't mess with North Phila.

[J. J.]

Ok, maybe you're not extremely partisan.  You are just abrasive and hard to take sometimes.  I wouldn't claim to be other than that myself.

I'm not clear on what you mean in that last sentence.  Do what exactly? Keep jousting with you?  Have no fear.


freedomburns is here

Keep posting the drivel (yes, I know, you were doing it for effect) like the puppet stuff.  Make well argued, cogent, factual statements that don't spin.  Support the candidate of your choice, by all means, but keep it accurate and honest.  And don't go for the cheap points (ah, unless you're making a joke). 

Reasonable?

[J. J.]

Freedumbburns, and yes you deserve it, Bush uses it as a figure of speech.  He has a habit of doing it.

[J. J.]

I did look at the site and the photos wouldn't download.  I actually do were a backbrace under a suit jacket and I can tell you that it doesn't make that kind of a bulge.  It is bulkier than any broadcast device.

You sanity (or your honesty) is now in question.

[J. J.]

I did look at the site and the photos wouldn't download.  I actually do were a backbrace under a suit jacket and I can tell you that it doesn't make that kind of a bulge.  It is bulkier than any broadcast device.

You sanity (or your honesty) is now in question.

You guys have nothing.  The site proves that Bush was wearing a wire.

How does the fact that your backbrace's bulge is bigger than Bush's microphone battery pack's bulge prove anything?


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What do think, he had a car battery strapped to his back!  Men's coats would hide anything like that, with out showing an outline.  Maybe it the mid 1970's, the time frame in which you seem to be stuck, a battery would be big enough to show.  This isn't the 1970's, Freedumbburnout, though your brain seems not to have developed since then.