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Pollwatch99
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« on: October 31, 2004, 08:25:23 AM »
« edited: October 31, 2004, 12:46:51 PM by Pollwatch99 »

Let's net out today for tracking polls.  Bush gains in Zogby, TIPP and stays the same in Rasmussen.  Bush loses in OD and WP.   Net gain for Bush+2

Kerry gains the same in Zogby, OD.  Stays same in Rasmussen and WP.  Kerry loses in TIPP.  Net gain for Kerry+1. 

I see no movement but maybe I see what I want to see 

Zogby Bush 48 Kerry 48 Nader 1 (Bush+2, Kerry+1; net to Bush+1)
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6667679

WP     Bush 48, Kerry 48 (Bush -1)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/2004tracking/track103104.html
       
Fox/OD  Bush 46 Kerry 46 Nader 1 ( Bush -1, Kerry+1.  Net Bush-2).
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/103104_poll.pdf
 
Rasmussen Bush 49 Kerry 48 (no change)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm

TIPP   Bush 48 Kerry 43 (Bush+2, Kerry-1  Net Bush+3)
http://www.tipponline.com/     
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2004, 08:37:46 AM »


thanks updated title and topline
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2004, 09:10:57 AM »

Fox Opinion Dynamics Tracking Poll Bush 46% Kerry 46%
go it thanks.  updated Topline
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2004, 09:42:57 AM »

This is starting to look like a Kerry trend.

Let's see what the last daily tracking says( Rasmussen).  Bush is +2, countered by Bush -2.  Net no change.  Kerry is unchanged and 2 polls up +1, Net +2 in 3 polls. 
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2004, 10:04:52 AM »

Two other polls are showing a tie/1 point Kerry lead this morning:  Democracy Corps and ARG.

Democracy Corps is a firm owned by James Carville.  Most tend to ignore this and Strategic Vision which is a republican firm
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2004, 10:07:49 AM »

This is starting to look like a Kerry trend.

Let's see what the last daily tracking says( Rasmussen).  Bush is +2, countered by Bush -2.  Net no change.  Kerry is unchanged and 2 polls up +1, Net +2 in 3 polls. 

Actually I forgot the TIPP tracking poll also.  Too many tracking polls.
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2004, 10:41:16 AM »
« Edited: October 31, 2004, 10:52:29 AM by Pollwatch99 »

What are the internals of the Fox tracking poll today.  Someone posted on another site that it had Bush up slightly with women and trailing with men in the Sat sample.

That can't be right can it??

I believe this reflects their reporting.  Basically even with both groups.  Confirmed on the Sunday national show; Kerry lead among men.  Most of the panelists agree, a little strange ( sample was 400)

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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2004, 11:08:36 AM »

It's the weekend. Kerry polls well on weekends.

As I posted in another thread, this is not supported by the data.  Here are the average Bush leads in the tracking polls by day of the week over the last thirty days (updated since I posted yesterday):

Saturday      2.26
Sunday            2.60
Monday           2.00
Tuesday           1.93
Wednesday    1.22
Thursday      2.23
Friday              2.13

Bush does best on Sunday and worst on Wednesday, suggesting he polls well on the weekends and badly from Sunday-Tuesday.


The difference between 1.2 and 2.6 is really not statistically significant.  Bottom line in this election Bush has been about a 2% lead since the debates within MOE.  Avg about 2.2 for all the days.  Rest is noise. Day of the week is not significant  
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2004, 11:43:03 AM »



      Averaging all the polls doesn't work.   The only way to do it is to take a poll or two as one's own and go with it.


If you averaged the polls (http://www.ncpp.org/1936-2000.htm) from 2000, you get Bush+1.6% for the final poll average. You have last minute DUI giving momentum to Gore.   I don't think it is invalid but it is only one way to look at the race.  With different pollsters using different techniques, you want to look at how their polls contrast with one another also.  Plus, of course the quality of polls coupled with the participants of polls(Dems, Reps, and Independants)
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2004, 12:02:50 PM »

up[dated for Rasmussen
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2004, 12:37:00 PM »

I've updated top lines for all tracking.  I see no real movment, opinions?
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